I have come to learn about incels this week, a term I had heard but ignored. Back in my day, such men were just called losers.
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Nice column by Josh Marshal on the Vance’s “sucker punch” remark, admitting that the Trump campaign was caught flat-footed watching Harris capture the Democratic nomination in 30 hour starting Sunday afternoon July 21.
I have another example of Republican weird. This one is from last May when Kristi Noem bragged in her book that she shot a rambunctious 18-month dog, telling us that this act showed that she could make tough decisions. There was no doubt that she was making this revelation years after it happened in order to impress Donald Trump to choose her as his VP for 2024.
Some people may have shot otherwise healthy and friendly dogs, but they would not go around telling others that they were proud of having done so. That fact that Noem thought this was a great accomplishment by her is definitely in the weird category.
We can imagine that were it not for Cricket the dog dying years ago before his time then we today would not have J D Vance to kick around for the next three months.
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We can’t call them losers. They are the backbone of the MAGA Republican Party.
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JD Vance is not a heel lift for trump’s shoes. He’s more like microscopic shards of broken glass in donnie’s shoes. You know …the kind you feel as they poke and cut but ya can’t see 'em.
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No. She quit her job after Vance was nominated. She’s a lawyer, and was doing legal work. She used to clerk for John Roberts and Brett Kavanaugh, although I think her recent legal work was with a normal law firm.
I can’t answer the rest of your questions, but I would like to have that info myself.
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I have no way of knowing that for sure; nobody else does either. I guess some people find Trump charming, but what other people see as charm strikes me as downright creepy. And he also strikes me as selfish and obnoxious.
And what have any of them gotten out of marriage with him, indeed. Access to money, but at the price of autonomy.
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Compounding their lossage is that their celibacy is self perpetuating. How many women can you imagine would like to date an incel? Everybody knows how weird they are.
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But what Sarah Palin did say was
“They’re our next-door neighbours,” Ms Palin told ABC in 2008. “And you can actually see Russia, from land, here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.”
So a small jump to Tina Fey’s much admired joke.
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I’ve never had them myself, but I hear the only thing more painful is bone spurs in one’s foot.
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Of course, both of them married widows who already had children. George loved Martha’s children (and grandchildren) as if they were his own. Dolly Madison’s son Payne was probably a little harder to love, but James Madison did not hold back from supporting him while he ran thorough money like it was water.
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A childless man, who had some stake in his country’s future after all, did raise two step-children after marrying their widowed mother. He later went on to become president after doing some military service.
His name was George Washington.
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Is Vance worst than Palin?
Yes, in a couple of ways:
- He has less government and executive experience.
- He does not send Starbursts through the screen …ricocheting around living rooms of America (h/t Rich Lowry)
- He is smarter therefore more dangerous.
- She didn’t make millions trashing her family in a memoir.
- She was self-made, not a protégé of a weird techbro billionaire.
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Bill Clinton had charm by the bucketloads. Even Dubya could pull off the folksy charming Texan. Barack Obama was a bonfire of charisma. But TSF? A rude, crude, wanna-be, never-will-be piece of white trash from the outer boroughs who thought he could play with the big boys in Manhattan. How anyone could find that “charming” is beyond me.
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Let’s have some sympathy. It’s hard to find a mate these days, for very many reasons.
A person is not bad just because they are alone despite their wishes. A person who is desperately alone for a very long time must have strong character indeed to not get twisted up inside trying to explain their predicament.
These are vulnerable people who were deliberately led into a brainwashing funnel by the likes of Jordan Peterson and Stefan Molyneux (one of YouTube’s most hateful misogynists, who is also a straight-up Nazi). These guys, and others like them, produce a series of self-help videos for single guys; they drip-feed the Ayn Rand virtue paradigm, then give them the PragerU version of the culture war, and then warm them up to fascism as the “obvious” solution to all of it.
Just like a lot of Fox watchers.
It’s not their fault there was a gang of sophisticated predators waiting around to sell them a false view of the world in order to co-opt their political power. (Actually, that’s the fault of 20th century neoliberals, i.e. the Koch branch of the modern GOP family.)
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That is part of Vance’s problem isn’t it? He’s a nepo-stepchild in his senate seat; never had to worry much about the voters, just sucking down Theil’s money.
Vance is so vocal about the value of children that I am starting to think he doesn’t actually like his own kids so much. Maybe fatherhood put a lot of pressure on his messed-up psyche still aching from unresolved childhood (Daddy) issues.
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I can give you a whole bunch of 'em.
They’re in the Bible, where marriage is expressly an economic arrangement made to ensure that a man could be sure only his sons were inheriting his property.
Their concept of marriage comes from the same place that says it’s perfectly ok to sell your children into slavery to ensure the eldest will have something to inherit. It’s not about ‘teh chillyuns’. Their holy text doesn’t give a shit about the children except as it pertains to the adult male’s economic status.
Which squares pretty well with the modern GOP, I find.
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OT: STOP EXPOSING OUR AGENDA TO THE PUBLIC BEFORE THE ELECTION!!!
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Or taking care of your veteran relative.
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Or, you know, planning to not be dead in 4 years.
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Vance wants children to have a vote but not food or healthcare. Anyone sincerely obsessed with the idea of lots of children should put his money where his mouth is. Healthcare, SNAP , WIC PROGRAMS, summer meals for kids out of school…. I could go on. We hear nothing from him on the issue of actual living children.
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