I didn’t hear the interview so I’m not sure what Jayapal meant, but I’m expecting an investment in child care and elder care will not just directly create jobs in those fields but free up a lot of women to expand their paid employment- because they are no longer trying to find a job that fits around their unpaid caregiving obligations.
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Obviously there is a lot of maneuvering to make the present Democratic bills fail.
At the cost of being redundant, it’s all about corruption from big money. They are saying no to Democratic reforms and new taxes.
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Has Sanders been reading some of the doom and gloom posts and comments on TPM?
Just saying.
“How long? Really? You think the world will collapse next week? Why?“… Sanders said. “It’s not a baseball game, this is tough stuff. We got 50 votes and we got to work it out.”
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Like the redoubtable “Bartlett’s Familiar Quotations.”
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Can someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought that the Paul Ryan tax cuts, just like the Bush tax cuts before them, have all sorts of sunset provisions so they could game the CBO score.
So doing nothing raises more money for progressive programs than negotiating with someone who wants to “tweak” the 2017 tax cuts? I mean doesn’t the BBB bill that Manchin just blew up already have a corporate tax rate that is higher than today’s but lower than the one in 2016 at Manchin’s insistence?
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I still have an index finger that doesn’t quite work as it was squashed “saving” a JBL L100 while sliding on some ice when moving out of a college apartment. Was worth it.
And, yes, there is still speaker wire tacked around my house. (Well, to be fair, lamp wire as it was cheaper)
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Continuing the discussion from The Day Of Reckoning Over BIF And Reconciliation Is Upon Us | Talking Points Memo:I fail to understand how ANYBODY puts any faith or belief that Manchinema will EVER honor their word on anything. Again. Negotiations started at $6T. Manchin and other ‘Conservatives’ reached agreement on $3.5 trillion over 10 years. Now their ‘topline’ is $1.5 T. Negotiated within the party to give away nearly half what they wanted. Now halving it again. This is just wrong. Even 3.5 was less than probably needed. I say Manchinema get their states excluded from Fedral largesse for the whole bill if they are worried about ‘debt’.
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He can stop playing any day now.
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And guarantee every retired, 50 year-old WV coal miner and his family a nice, all-paid-for (and hurricane-insured) waterfront property on the Redneck Riviera of South Alabama and the Florida Panhandle.
(But none for the retired coal miners from Kentucky.)
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Heroism is overrated.
The public’s role and the only way to fix any of this is to vote in more Democrats. That’s a big reason I’d prefer not to hear people here bashing them all the time. I just showed you Nancy saying if we don’t do this it’s going to be a disaster. I guess I’m a little vague on what more you want.
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I prefer brevity
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Something the voters that are on the fence about who cares for them can understand. Unfortunately, we’re in a short attention span period of history. A listing of all the very valid things that will happen if this bill doesn’t pass (and let’s not even think about what will happen if infrastructure doesn’t pass) is wonderful, but the attention span isn’t there for the list to be absorbed.
That’s all I’m saying.
We can’t rely on details - the messaging has to be short and to the point. Yes, the dreaded sound bite. But the dreaded sound bite is all the average American can and will absorb anymore.
Someone somewhere on here spoke about how Schumer and Pelosi rely on the old-time method of communicating to the public and how it doesn’t seem to work anymore:
This bill is popular. That message isn’t being drumbeat enough.
Default on debt is unconstitutional. That message isn’t being drumbeat enough.
Where’s the alternative plan from the GOP? That message isn’t being drumbeat enough.
Just a sampling of what more I want.
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So we now have a top and bottom line 1.5T - 3.5T, let the negotiations begin.
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This needs to be the lede: “Manchin’s word is no good.”
Let the Sinemanchin Troll scramble to refute that messaging and rebuild trust.
They gave their word publicly; they broke their word publicly.
They should never be taken seriously again, either by the press or elected officials, and if they don’t like that narrative, they can change it – by honoring the deal they made.
Otherwise, no more spotlight, except to highlight their bad faith.
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I have some very sweet computers playing my 40GB music collection on a few systems around my house…but they are hooked up to my nice and fairly old fashioned amps/stereos and speakers. I have a whole-home wired getup based at the living room entertainment system (with additional speakers on the patio and garage), and a second garage-only unit that is for a little higher volume grooving. All of them pull from my home server where the music is stored.
Almost all my gear is got from the Habitat For Humanity Restore Store…$5 per pair of speakers and usually $5 to $10 for components/amps.
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What I object to here is the assumption that any of us know exactly what kind of messaging will work to get the actions we want. People get paid tremendous amounts of money to try to figure that out and it’s like baseball, it’s never successful all the time. I see a lot of messaging happening and say so, and what comes back is well it’s not the exactly right kind that I just know in my bones will work. I’m never going to find that a compelling argument. If you can think of messaging to persuade me otherwise…but until then we’ll have to disagree.
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The West Virginia Democrat told reporters that he was willing to work with $1.5 trillion for the sweeping bill, the same figure he had given Schumer in July in a memo.
Not good enough. Nuke the damn BIF. Nobody gets a cookie unless everybody gets cookies.
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– Mark Twain
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I wish we could have avoided interface/confrontation with Sinema as much as possible…and concentrated as much as possible on actual Congressional negotiations, many of which have involved Manchin.
[If-when Manchin is cornered by reporters, treat it as Performance Art.]
To the extent possible, Manchin and the WH-Nancy-Chuck-Kamala brain-trust get to an accommodation…then Joe Manchin is left with the task of explaining what needs to be done with Sinema
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