This is very nice.
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I went to mississippi once. visited an old military friend from back in the 70’s. spent a week.
by any chance did the state come forth into the 2000’s yet?
or are they still stuck in the 50’s?
it’s a cruel way of living unless you don’t give crap about living.
He is as lacking in humanity as anyone I can think of. He exhibits no compassion, sympathy or empathy. He has no feeling for art and has been known to say it’s useless. And he’s not funny either.
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All of the above.
No way to improve that description.
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Real Time is way past it’s sell by date.
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If Harding and Taft were alive, they’d say of Trump what the rest of the confederates say about Mississippi: Thank God for Trump, at least we aren’t last place at everything!
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W’s already said that. Taft and Harding have to get in line. 
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Right behind James Buchanan.
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Meh. All I can say in Stennis’s favor is that it doesn’t include the flag of treason. Why should 21st c Mississippi (well, technically) care about the thirteen original colonies, much less the colonist European nations, and the native Americans? Geeze, they were below even the slave races. And why would MS celebrate joining the United States, as they’re apparently still hot on leaving it?
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I recall how much Kentuckians hated “Obamacare” and wanted it repealed, but insisted that nobody take away their “KYnect”.
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Not if as their progeny they perpetuate HATE.
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My list starts with Andrew Jackson and Woodrow Wilson. Trail of Tears, Bank of United States, Panic of 1837; segregation of DC, purge of nonwhite federal employees, promotion of KKK.
Buchanan was useless, but I doubt a good president would have been enough to avoid secession, and the traitors took it from there. Lincoln’s election was gonna, and did, trigger rebellion. So I put Buchanan at No4, behind Tyler. If Henry Clay hadn’t turned down the VP slot, things might have been a mite different.
Drumpf is in a universe of his own. Retires the prize.
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Stennis doesn’t.
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So, some people say slavery was not so bad,
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This is one of the biggest lies. Language matters as it twists the actual reality of what occurred. Folks were not slaves. There was no slavery. They were born & enslaved That is the myth, calling it slavery & people slaves, of the inhumane brutality of what they DID.
When the verbiage is on “slaves” it’s absolving the truth of what happened. Folks were not born as slaves. They were enslavedhuman beings. America must own up to the facts. Put the onus on the perpetrators. The ones that enslaved.
Calling folks slaves is as if that was their attribute. No. They were enslaved. Legalized system of ENSLAVEMENT.
Slavery is a euphemism for the truth of what they did. White humans enslaved black humans
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The mere mention of removing the Confederate emblem from the Mississippi flag stirs anger in its defenders, who tell people to leave the state if they don’t like it.
How is leaving the state going to help?!?
I don’t live in Mississippi, but I still find its flag offensive.
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I try my best to avoid the easy route of “presentism” and not judge the people of the past by the standards of today.
Everyone is flawed, and everyone does stupid shit.
Sometimes it’s historically awful—like Jackson’s treatment of the Cherokee—but not terribly out of step with his contemporaries’ attitudes.
Wilson was a deeply racist man, but so were the majority of Americans during his career. It doesn’t excuse his beliefs, but it does put them in the context of his time.
It’s frighteningly easy to be judgmental and pure about the past.
It’s also a fool’s errand.
I like your list and the reasons but I find it interesting that you don’t go beyond the first quarter of the 20th century (Wilson). You’re going to break W’s heart. Or mine. hahahahaha
I agree Trump is in his own class altogether.
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And yet, the Supreme Court had a slightly different attitude, and he told them to enforce their own order. That’s not just a historic tragedy, that’s a violation of his oath and a betrayal of the country. And the depression he managed to create and exacerbate through his banking policies was a bonus.
Even by the standards of his own day, Jackson was despicable.
Oh, yes he was—usually undone by his horrible temper, which he could not control after Rachel died.
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don’t forget to recycle all those flags.
