Fauci Urges Federal Stay-At-Home Order: ‘I Don’t Understand Why That’s Not Happening’

cervantes · April 3, 2020, 9:13am

If it’s officially declared, then it’s not just de facto – but no, a president would not be required to go as far as a declaration of martial law.

Presidents have taken “emergency powers” into their own hands before – from Thomas Jefferson to Abe Lincoln to Franklin Roosevelt to George Walker Bush. All of these were accused of violating the Constitution but, for various reasons, the accusations did not leave us with a body of law that rules out seizure of “emergency powers” at the federal level.

In current circumstances, if Trump were to issue a “national stay-at-home order” or some such thing, and if it were to be challenged, his DOJ would have to defend it in the courts. You can probably figure out how that should go, and also how it would go.

nocomment · April 3, 2020, 9:07am

And, of course, the PPE hoarding/grift they’ve got going on is why Trump is accusing health care workers of doing the same thing.

steviedee111 · April 3, 2020, 9:08am

asturcot · April 3, 2020, 9:08am

Yes, exactly, the master of projection strikes again…

jw1 · April 3, 2020, 9:10am

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radicalcentrist · April 3, 2020, 9:18am

Yes, but in Taiwan, which is a democracy and really managed it well despite having many direct flights to Wuhan, it was done without a heavy hand. People told to stay home were provided with everything they needed and they followed the directions out of a sense of social solidarity.

DharmaBum · April 3, 2020, 9:19am

The idea of Jared at the helm
is not comforting.

cervantes · April 3, 2020, 9:21am

Only at the helm?

bunnyvelour · April 3, 2020, 9:21am

https://tenor.com/view/jack-30-rock-gif-14619509

steviedee111 · April 3, 2020, 9:23am

As I said, we do not have a society with the qualities found in other nations more accustomed to weathering great bouts of adversity, together, as a team.

christianhankel · April 3, 2020, 9:23am

Mayor Quinton Lucas of Kansas City, MO, has been ahead of the curve:

March 12: declared a state of emergency
March 16: closed the schools, bars, and restaurants, and banned gatherings,
March 21: issued a stay-at-home order

Not sure how this small time mayor of a podunk midwest town was able to discern the danger inherent in C19 nearly a month ago, while our incredibly smart and sophisticated president is still confused.

Here in KC, we’re all lovin’ Mayor Q.

Quinton-Lucas

uneducated · April 3, 2020, 9:24am

How humbling it must be for Dr Fauci to be an expert in your field and know, without ever studying viruses,Donnie knows more then you.
Donnie is also a ventilator virtuoso so there should be a hotline to Donnie when there is 1 ventilator and 2 people need one. Donnie will tell the Doctor which one gets to live.
Nothing greater then having “The Greatest American Zero” in charge.

cervantes · April 3, 2020, 9:29am

I’m not sure, either.

If I may quote the King of Siam: “Is … a … puzzlement.”

cervantes · April 3, 2020, 9:26am

I like!

asturcot · April 3, 2020, 9:26am

The shitgibbon could simply say that “I am requesting that all State Govenors issue a shelter in place order”…

Very simple…

And if if wanted to play hardball, he could threaten to withold emergency related materiel to those States not acting on his request…

rocklaverve · April 3, 2020, 9:35am

Well, they’ve already passed on the removal option. They could, at the very least, get their heads out of his orange ass and act in their own self interest instead of his. Instead, every one of these red state yahoos will go down with him once the shit hits their respective fans.

euglena4056 · April 3, 2020, 9:40am

A bit of critical analysis would at least address the point that a president has no such authority. Of course, Trump can say that the guidelines on staying at home should be implemented, but he can’t mandate it. Or can he? Extending the thinking, could he declare martial law? Could governors?

asturcot · April 3, 2020, 9:45am

Great new graphics from the Times

I posted a comment which included

Just like the Great Depression will forever be associated with the term “Hoovervilles”, our President deserves a similar eponymous tribute… Those refrigerated trailers that you see parked out by every major hospital where the bodies are getting stacked should forever be known as: “Trump Trailers”

If you can, go over an recommend it, I really want Trump Trailer to stick…

The comment is currently awaiting moderation…

Edit: Just got approved, lets make it trend…

rocklaverve · April 3, 2020, 9:43am

“If you decided to keep your business open, then I will be there,” he told attendees. “And I will bring as many people as I can, and we will form a legal defense for you, we will form an active political defense for you, and we will also, if necessary, provide a physical defense for you so that you can continue in your rights. And ~~that’s what I believe needs to happen~~ then you will die.”

Sounds like a plan. Darwinism at work.

euglena4056 · April 3, 2020, 9:43am

Trump’s history on this will be written in his own quotes and tweets. He can’t rewrite it. The revisionists might try and some are obviously currently trying to give future historians ammunition to provide Trump some sort of slack. It’s up to our online education system to help circumvent such revisionists attempts, develop critical thinking skills, etc. In between watching Netflix and social media, of course.