Doctors Beg RonJohn To Stop ‘Horsing Around’ With Ivermectin Propaganda | Talking Points Memo

Obviously the WI-GOP is nervous about turn out. Someone put the fear into Ron and he is making an attempt to change positions. Not going to work.

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I read about this a few days ago but kept it to myself so it wouldn’t disgust and trouble people the way it did me.

Just saying. :smile:

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The more the SC sees that Republicans are in trouble the more likely they will give Republicans in their BS legal verdicts

Ivermectin is approved by the FDA. Its use as a COVID treatment is off-label, but doctors are allowed to make off-label prescriptions. And I have never, ever heard of any other judge ordering a health care provider to give a patient any drug at all, FDA approved or not.

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Paul Krugman’s newsletter today explains perfectly Ron’s scam and other Repugs.

Today’s Column was inspired by the latest twist in our still shambolic response to Covid — the continuing refusal of many Americans to get vaccinated and the insistence of some of them on swallowing horse paste instead. I tried to link this horrifying, if comic, development to the long relationship between right-wing extremism and patent medicine. But I didn’t have space to put this in the broader context of how money influences politics and policy.

The simple fact is that none of us are saints. Even those who claim to be working for the common good can be and often are influenced by the prospect of personal reward. As conservative economists like to say, incentives matter.

Indeed, it’s usually conservative economists who make this point most strongly. Half a century ago George Stigler of the University of Chicago published a hugely influential paper titled “The Theory of economic regulation”, which argued that government regulators — like the boards setting rules for electricity generation and pricing — weren’t like the wise, selfless guardians of Plato’s Republic; they were human and hence subject to influence, which in practice meant that regulators were often captured by the very industries they were supposed to regulate.

It was a good point, if perhaps too extreme — regulators may not be saints, but they aren’t always purely creatures of self-interest either. But it was too narrowly applied. Stigler’s followers have used his logic to make the case against regulation arguing that regulators will be corrupted by special interests. But why restrict that insight to government officials? In particular, why not apply it to their own political movement?

After all, surely the same logic that applies to regulators also applies to politicians and pundits, including those on the right who denounce regulation. And for that matter, it applies to intellectuals too, especially in those situations where the possible rewards for expressing the “right” opinions go beyond prestige and promotion into the realm of cold, hard cash.

And as far back as I can remember, the world of conservative opinion and thought has in fact consisted largely of bought men and women. (I’ll talk about liberals in a minute.)

I don’t think it was always thus. I’m not a huge fan of Milton Friedman’s legacy, but I do believe that he — and for that matter, Stigler — said what they did out of genuine, unforced conviction. Things have, however, changed since their heyday. In fact, they’ve changed twice.

First came the rise of “movement conservatism” — a highly organized set of interlocking institutions, all backed by billionaires and big corporations, of which the Republican Party was only one piece. There were also media organizations, especially Fox, think tanks like the Heritage Foundation and more. By the Aughts (we never did come up with a better name for this century’s first decade) these institutions had created a safe space, a guarantee of a stable and fairly lucrative career, for people willing to say the right things — tax cuts good, regulation bad — and not rock the boat.

I never thought I’d be nostalgic for the era when big money ruled the right. But traditional corporate influence looks benign compared with where we are now. At this point, to be a conservative in good standing you have to pledge allegiance to blatant lies — Democrats are Marxists, the election was stolen, basic public health measures are sinister assaults on freedom.

Why are so many people who have to know better willing to go along with these lies? Again, self-interest — partly ambition, and yes, partly financial reward. Obviously the snake-oil industry doesn’t have anything like the resources of more respectable Republican-leaning industries like fossil fuels or tobacco. But it offers more opportunities for personal enrichment: Ben Shapiro is presumably well paid for hawking “superfoods” in a way he couldn’t be for, say, promoting oil wells.

OK, what about liberals? They’re people too, with all the usual human flaws; there are plenty of prominent liberals who I know personally to be driven by ego and to some extent by monetary considerations, people like … actually, not going there. But they live in a different environment from conservatives.

The old Will Rogers line — “I am not a member of any organized political party — I am a Democrat” — still applies. Political science research confirms that the Republican Party, and conservatism in general, is an ideological monolith, albeit one largely under new management. Democrats and the center-left in general, by contrast, are a loose coalition, and to prosper in that coalition you have to satisfy multiple constituencies. This makes it harder to sell your soul, because it’s not clear who you’re supposed to sell it to.

In the subculture I know best, politically active economists, those on the left, no matter how passionate they are about their politics — and no matter how self-centered — feel the need to retain academic credibility and, for those who do consulting, credibility with serious business interests. (See, I told you nobody is a saint.) Many of my economist friends look very favorably on President Biden’s policies, but they wouldn’t risk their reputations by claiming that Biden has Nobel-quality economic insight — or selling nutritional supplements.

So the blend of craziness and corruption taking place on the American right is special, without anything comparable on the left. Don’t both-sides this.

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While Ron Johnson promotes Ivermectin and pooping to own the libs (at the expense of intestinal linings), VP Harris had a good/valuable trip to Vietnam.

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Many people are saying that Lydia Pinkham’s Vegetable Compound works wonders and it’s not for horses.

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Well good. I have three kitchen knives made in Vietnam and buying them made me feel like I was supporting the country a little bit anyway. They’re handmade from recycled leaf-spring steel, very traditionally Japanese in style and charming with a quality knife people call “rustic,” and ooh baby do they sharpen up nice.

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For those of you who don’t visit the Hive, I want to share something that @bryan posted on the “Humor in Slightly Less Dark Times”. It’s too good not to share.

@castor_troy, I do love Star Trek.

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LOL

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I’ve heard the same of many patent medicines formulated with laudanum.
While they may not offer a cure, you’ll certainly feel better after taking them.

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Never, never forget Menken’s description of a politician: One who would endorse something as repulsive as cannibalism if his constituents were practicing it.
He said the politician would serve missionaries for dinner.

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And also from Krugman’s article yesterday as well.

Snake oil peddlers, clearly, find consumers of right-wing news and punditry a valuable market for their wares. So it shouldn’t be surprising to find many right-leaning Americans ready to see vaccination as a liberal plot and turn to dubious alternatives — although, again, I didn’t see livestock dewormer coming.

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Maybe you should change that to horses asses in red states.

Why was a judge ordering a hospital to provide a medication? That is insane.

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Thanks for posting the Krugman article - it is very good.

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Shuffling out the door, so I don’t have time right at the moment to read the article, but Strategic?

Say what? That is as head turning as someone saying they are taking cattle dewormer to cure COVID.

I’d send that image to my SIL, but she would completely miss the point. There is NO reasoning with her and her one son. The rest of the family got smart…they’re vaxxed.

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Promoter of the quack death cult party. It’s way beyond stupidity. How the fuck do we as a society allow this shit to continue?

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Saw this coming a while back.

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