Discussion: Steve King Shares Meme Speculating About 'Another Civil War'

10-15% might.

Yes, I think itā€™s much more likely theyā€™re using her to be the scary black woman who is scary than any interest in bringing in more substantive discussion.

They wouldnā€™t be watching Fox if they were at all open to hearing from the other side.

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If Fox viewers were vulnerable to facts and logic, there wouldnā€™t be any Fox viewers.

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Texas is not the worst moocher, but it isnā€™t an exception, either. Texans take $1.50 for each dollar they contribute to the federal budget. (South Carolina, the moochiest, takes $8.00.)

Only fourteen states contribute more than they take: Delaware, Minnesota, Illinois, Nebraska, Ohio, Kansas, New York, Colorado, Utah, New Jersey, Oklahoma, Wyoming, Massachusetts, and California. (You can decide which of these states are ā€œred.ā€ Iā€™ve ranked them with the worst deal at the top: itā€™s Delaware, whereas California and Massachusetts are nearly at parity. My numbers are about six years old.)

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Yeah, itā€™s the ā€œeconomic anxiety.ā€ Thatā€™s what it is.

And donā€™t tell me Iā€™m an effete urbanist. Iā€™m born and raised rural. And not just any rural, rural Kentucky, the gun-nuttiest state in the union that isnā€™t Texas. Farms, pastures and second-growth forests were my playground. Part of me lives in that setting, and will forever, even though most of them are suburban housing developments now because Kentuckians think zoning is a communist plot. And I know the rural mindset, particularly the Appalachian flavor, like itā€™s family, because it is.

And Iā€™m here to tell you that those people donā€™t give jack shit about policy. No amount of government assistance, no amount of improvement in their lives and the life of their community due to wise policy will change them. Any improvement will be attributed to their own moral fiber and bootstrapping, to the extent that itā€™s even perceived. Other people receiving direct assistance will continue to be objects of scorn and disdain. And as long as Fox News is there playing on every public TV and most of the homes, pumping the hate and fear, the racism, misogyny and xenophobia, the cultivated narrowness of vision they associate with kids staying at home and not getting above themselves, theyā€™ll vote Republican.

We need to help them because itā€™s the right thing to do. But weā€™re fooling ourselves if believe they will ever, ever, ever be grateful and vote to keep it.

Apropos of nothing, incidentally, I increasingly fixate on how math illiteracy seems to lie at the root of every form of mass stupidity. And thus I am struck by Kingā€™s evident belief that a) all 400 million guns are exclusively found in what heā€™s denominated as the states of the Renewed CSA and, b) that the owners of said shootinā€™ irons, each of whom are statistically likely to have multiple guns, have 20,000 rounds, thatā€™s 400 fifty round boxes, of ammo piled up for each of their guns.

Thatā€™s about $5,000 worth of ammunition, give or take, depending on the round, per gun. So, if your a five gun family, that means youā€™ve got maybe $1200 invested in your guns and a whopping $25k invested in ammo.

No wonder theyā€™re all broke.

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They may be watching for a variety of reasons. Maybe their spouse/ parents wants it on and they are basically forced to watch or listen. Many business have it on and people are exposed to it that way. It never hurts to step out of the bubble if youā€™re good at what you do and are articulate. Stephanie Cutter was both. I just hate to see supposed liberals like Colmes doing more damage than good on Fox. I realize heā€™s gone, but he had to know Fox was using him to stereotype liberals.

Great just what America doesnā€™t need. The US Civil War had 680,000 dead. The south is tied to the US Government. They would have to guard the US border. Lose all Government installations. Social Security, Medicare, Food stamps, disaster relief, farm subsidies, & any money from the US.

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:thinking:

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Businesses who have it on may or may not find themselves the victims of the wonderful ā€œTV Killā€ universal remote app, a stealth weapon in the information war all Fox-haters should own.

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Remember Juan Williams.

FOX is the place where smart people go to collect big paychecks and never be taken seriously again. They are going to make her look foolish because they have the final cut.

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If they come up with an app that stealthily changes the channel to CNN and locks out Fox, Iā€™m in.

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Holy fuck.

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White supremacy in action.

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California might be the chest with the beating heart since Governor Newsom made a chutzpah move issuing a moratorium on the death penalty. Bold, forward looking and morally courageous.

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As long as schools keep Gone With The Wind on required reading lists, the kids will never learn.

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the height of hubris ā€¦ the knuckle-draggers crowing about the number of bullets that they have - hell they should be counting musket balls ā€¦ if a real all out ā€œcivil warā€ broke out - ā€¦

it would be a real all out state of anarchy - and what the knuckle-draggers are incapable of comprehending is that there will be more than enough furiously angry geeks & nerds who will be enraged at the knuckle-draggers ā€¦and they will hack things - dangerous - destructive - devastating - things and will be indescribably wreaking havoc and annihilation - of course the knuckle draggers think they will do just fine - 'cause they fantasize that they are expert wilderness survivors ā€¦ but they will be dying right and left - just like everybody else

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She was a hot mess on Maher the other night, sandwiched between Rick Wilson and Claire McCaskill and trying to keep up. Iā€™ll second @pluckyinky 's description: no substantive discussion.

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Yeah not a few liberals are as heavily armed as the right. I have a friend in Albuquerque who could arm a small militia himself. Heā€™s hardly the only one.

Do they really believe we are all Birkenstock wearing vegans? Weā€™re not.

@littlegirlblue - Yeah I agree with you and plucky both about this. I think Brazile has fucked up. Not for the first time, either.

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Hereā€™s her explanation of how itā€™s going to be when she goes to Fox. I want to fwow up.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/donna-brazile-why-i-am-excited-to-join-fox-news-and-take-part-in-a-civil-and-sensible-debate

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Iā€™ll hold your head and you can hold mine. hahahahahahahahaha

God. Is she for real?

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