When and where?
Thereâs the big laugh for this day. Grazie.
Prego. hahahahaha
Once she started Hillary bashing in 2016 and 17 I figured she was an opportunist with a rapidly closing window.
Thatâs when I got so mad at her - the Hillary bashing.
Donna Brazil:
But I have never wavered on the values and principles that shaped my commitment to public service⌠attention and money.
Sedition much?
yepâŚthis is âThe systemâs riggedâ on steroids. Megadose, illegal steroids.
Crap. this is disappointing to say the least. Surely she doesnât think theyâll conduct sensible debates. Sheâll be the African-American Straw-woman target that getâs cut off when she is getting close to a point.
Exactly. Sheâs been spending too much time in the Beltway and NYC because she seems to think that the way her Republican friends treat her privately is the way theyâll behave on TV.
AhâŚyesâŚFor a few decades, the public face of the GOP is scary and uglyâŚno matter how much they make nice in private. I know itâs always been that way to some extent, but it has bloomed like a pandemic since the days of Newt.
But democrats who are part of the Village never see that scary ugly face. And they wouldnât want to say anything about it because that would make their republican friends uncomfortable.
AhâŚyesâŚFor a few decades, the public face of the GOP is scary and uglyâŚno matter how much they make nice in private. I know itâs always been that way to some extent, but it has bloomed like a pandemic since the days of Newt.
Yep, and the thing about it is that I donât doubt a lot of those folks who go on TV blowing one dog whistle after another donât really believe any of it. I have a theory that itâs why people like Nicole Wallace and Steve Schmidt were so shocked by PP. They didnât pick up on the subtle dog whistles and the low grade crazy that has long plagued their party because they personally knew those engaging in it and knew them to be completely different people once the cameras were off. I think a lot of the Never Trumpers told themselves that the sort of virulent hate was just the wingnut fringe and not the rest of the party. I think there was a lot of âOh, he/she just says these things, but he/she doesnât really mean it.â It was only after PP came along did they finally start to realize that it doesnât matter whether they mean it or not. The results are the same.
The 101st Fightinâ Keyboardists sit at attention, ready for orders.
Ah, that takes me back to 2008-12.
Fun times.
Youâre a traitor to the USA, Steve. You need to leave.
Treason is a capital crime. Just sayinâ.
We need to help them because itâs the right thing to do. But weâre fooling ourselves if believe they will ever, ever, ever be grateful and vote to keep it.
Hard truths.
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Yep, and the thing about it is that I donât doubt a lot of those folks who go on TV blowing one dog whistle after another donât really believe any of it. I have a theory that itâs why people like Nicole Wallace and Steve Schmidt were so shocked by PP. They didnât pick up on the subtle dog whistles and the low grade crazy that has long plagued their party because they personally knew those engaging in it and knew them to be completely different people once the cameras were off. I think a lot of the Never Trumpers told themselves that the sort of virulent hate was just the wingnut fringe and not the rest of the party. I think there was a lot of âOh, he/she just says these things, but he/she doesnât really mean it.â It was only after PP came along did they finally start to realize that it doesnât matter whether they mean it or not. The results are the same.
I think you are spot on. The more subtle (for lack of a better word) signals were seen as ways to goad their base, but not something that THEY really believed. I think that any GOPers with half a brain or a smidgen of conscience who had used this method of leading the base are now dismayed and even frightened to find that the BASEST members of the base are leading them. âITâs ALIVE!â Trump is the GOPâs Golem, but instead of being fashioned from clayâŚhe is molded from shit and he is out of their control.
Any improvement will be attributed to their own moral fiber and bootstrapping, to the extent that itâs even perceived. Other people receiving direct assistance will continue to be objects of scorn and disdain.
I once saw a documentary interviewing Kentuckians at a medical clinic whose lives were literally saved by ACA paying the costs, yet they were angrily against that damn Obamacare.
But we get that gun thing here in Pennsyltucky. Just remarked to my son yesterday about the cost of ammo my neighbor shoots off just about every day- âhe must be rolling in the doughâ (he isnât). But I never give up on trying to convince my rural neighbors. Sometimes they actually listen and nod.
BTW, the graphic was deleted in the article. Restored:
Note also, as usual, that states are (approximately) by land area rather than populationâŚ
This thing that King and fellow idiots who dream of a Civil War is that they dream of the day after the ware ends.
Never the carnage, nor the sacrifice in human casualties for either side.
I had a neighbor, born and raise in SC, who swore the Civil War was coming when Obama was POTUS.
I asked him one questionâŚif troops in US uniforms showed up on your door step, would you shoot at them?
He said no.
I finished by asking⌠if someone was shooting at US troops, would you shoot at them to protect the troops?.
He said yes.
I then told him that if this was 1866, he just shot Confederate Soldiers.
Blank stare.
Theses guy dream of the outcome that will never be. Thatâs why they double down on the denial.
IIRC, on Bill Mahrerâs show, he showed a graphic about voters and their primary news source. Did not break each listing as to % Dem / Rep. 19% had Faux News. MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC were at 5%; NYTimes at 3%. His point was for Dems to go on Fox and âattackâ the network head-on (segment was about DNC canceling debates on Fox).
Now, how effective that would actually be, I dunno. Perhaps introducing truth & facts into the RW bubble is necessary. However, it may be like injecting a not very good chemo drug into a stage 4 cancer patient: not likely to help
IIRC, on Bill Mahrerâs show, he showed a graphic about voters and their primary news source. Did not break each listing as to % Dem / Rep. 19% had Faux News. MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC were at 5%; NYTimes at 3%. His point was for Dems to go on Fox and âattackâ the network head-on (segment was about DNC canceling debates on Fox).
Now, how effective that would actually be, I dunno. Perhaps introducing truth & facts into the RW bubble is necessary. However, it may be like injecting a not very good chemo drug into a stage 4 cancer patient: not likely to help
It sounds good in theory. And maybe if the Dems stick to the more reputable types (Shep Smith or Chris Wallace), they might be able to get some of their message out.
But, Fox has no vested interest in broadcasting the Demâs message unedited. Just look at the Professor who spoke at Davos who against the extreme consolidation of wealth in the world.
Ding dong tucker interviewed him and the Professor so got the better of tuck, that they didnât air the interview.