Discussion: Senate Republicans Shrug Off Mounting Evidence Of Trump's Misdeeds

Exactly. I was just going to point out that they are still getting what they want most - stacked, reliably Rethuglican courts. This is their last chance, hopefully for a generation, because the Dumpster destroys/kills everything he touches. The GOP will start dying in November and should be totally dead by 2020.

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They have a Constitutional way out of that predicament. Invoke the 25th Amendment by declaring that Trump is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office until the question of complicity with Cohen is resolved. Then president Spence can nominate and the GOP Senate can confirm Kavanaugh. If they want Trump back in office they can hold the typical GOP sham Senate investigation and declare that Trump is innocent and can now faithfully perform the powers and duties of his office.

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“I don’t know what Judge Kavanaugh has to do with any of this,” he said.
Why doesn’t he ask Merrick Garland, I’m sure he can explain it to Lillte Marco.

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Agree. However, Democrats and liberals need to lay the foundation for declaring Gorsuch and Kavanaugh as the spawn of illegitimacy. Hence all of the SC decisions where they played a significant role will be subject to illegitimacy as well. This is a critical message and needs to be planted now. It follows that the whole Trump era and the actions from it are illegitimate as well. When sane legislators have the reins again, they can carte blanche and without paying to much attention to the tantrum-throwing conservatives, quickly reverse many of their unpopular and illegitimate actions and who knows, maybe even add a few SC justices because of it. They at least need to threaten such when they have the ball. This is how it’s done. we’re in the right and our future is at stake.

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Fuck every single one of you Republican senators. You each deserve to have your genitals repeatedly electrocuted and bamboo shoved far up under your fingernails and toenails. On top of that, your bank accounts should all be emptied and your stock portfolios burned.

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Kav isn’t solidly conservative, he is reactionary and fascist.

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How much do you wanna bet that list almost perfectly lines up with the list of retirements?

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Paulie, the leader of the pack, er, the House, said this because he obviously doesn’t get regular newspaper delivery or have access to TV.

“We are aware of Mr. Cohen’s guilty plea to these serious charges. We will need more information than is currently available at this point”

@lanabill

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Corker, Graham and others did say Cohen’s accusation was troubling.
“Michael Cohen’s assertion that the president directed him to pay this
money is not good news for the president,” Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME)
said.

I can almost feel the heavily furrowed brow from here. Why, this may even make one of them to unlock the vault and bring forth a forceful “tsk, tsk.”

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They, Republican politicians, willfully created the miasma of stupidity that the Republican voters inhabit which causes them to debase themselves with Trump affection, They can’t say “it’s just the will of the voters” because those voter’s brains were willfully defiled with ignorance by the very politicians who might now claim this BS reason. They bootstrapped their fucked-up electorate and don’t get to throw-up their hands like they played no role.

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They’re not cowards. This is express, explicit bad faith and outright authoritarianism we’re seeing here. They’re not going to delay Kavanaugh’s confirmation because they want Kavanaugh on the Court. They want Kavanaugh on the Court to act as a radical anti-democratic partisan hack who will do anything possible to impede democratic change.

This is about their Ingsoc view of power for the sake of power at any cost, by any means and open sneering at democracy, norms and the rule of law.

They’re not afraid. They’re onboard. They have been since the 1990’s.

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Little Marco or Marco Lite? Either works.

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Incontrovertible evidence of conspiracy with Russia won’t sway them. Perhaps partially because many of them are in on that. They’re thoroughly evil.

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When Graham had a spine and fearlessly pursued Bill Clinton and way before Russian PAC money started flowing to him. And Rubio and others.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lindsey-graham-impeachment_us_5b7cf009e4b0cd327df7d6f4

“You don’t have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this Constitutional Republic,”

He said a president could get the boot if Congress decides “your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds”:

"Impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office.”

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I have asked myself these very questions. I may be the odd man out, but my answer was, “Yeah, I get it and can totally see why we–as a country–shouldn’t want to have such a criminal naming people to permanent positions that have such sway over our nation’s laws we must all live with … even if the shoes were on the other feet here. At the end of the day, I want to be able to go to sleep at night knowing I tried my best and lived my life like I expect others to do.” I am being serious – if we somehow had a liberal version of Trump (a sexual predator, Russia dick sucking, money-laundering criminal, etc.) (for whom I likely wouldn’t have voted), I wouldn’t want that kind of person choosing our nation’s judges. Fair is fair and I don’t want to win by playing like them.

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You may be right. I’m not so sure though… cos one thing we do better than Republicans is to throw our own teammates under the bus.

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Of course they shrug it off because they’re in too deep. They need him as president to keep any authority. It’s why they’re sweating bullets over the primaries

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Agreed. Even if some GOP Senators envision an upcoming endgame in which Trump is forced out of office, there is no reason for them to balk at approving Kavanaugh. He is ultimately a Federalist Society pick more than he is a Trump pick–he has no close personal ties with Trump–and all but a few Senate Republicans will be happy to see a Supreme Court stacked with Federalist Society judges.

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Co-sign. I have been repeating the same thing again and again every time people comment to the effect Ryan (or any other VerySerious Republican) is spineless. No, they are fully on board.

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Several folks here posted this recent Krugman piece. Time to post it again. The GOP will never act like a ‘legitimate’ conservative political alternative in its present state and form. Perhaps, in the future, but not now or in the short term. It’s not just Trump.

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