I’ve said it before, but Pelosi knows her liabilities, understands what’s going on with a new generation, and was prepared to retire when Clinton won. But she stayed because she has the experience you and others have cited. Ocasio-Cortez is in a hurry, she’s a comer in the best sense of the word and because she is, she is also impatient for a new order. But that’s now how politics works.
Impatience does drive one to run for office.
I can provide you the link where Ocasio-Cortez says she won’t support Pelosi for Speaker. The newbie’s getting ahead of herself as all berners do.
Please share that link. I haven’t seen that. This is news to me.
Just the threat of Pelosi retaking the gavel has been used by Republicans to motivate their voters.
It’s opportunism of the worst kind for newbies in our party to join this chorus.
Kinda a straw man. Nothing is perfect.
Pelosi has done more, far more than the new candidate and has been doing it for decades. We would have no ACA without Pelosi, no CHIP, no right to an abortion, no support for handicapped, no DODD/Frank. Name one issue where Pelosi is to the right. There is none. Every single democrat from Hillary’s effort in the 90’s to Obama with the help of Pelosi and Reid passed ACA and DODD/Frank. Everyone would have preferred single payer but they compromised because the had to to get CHIP, insuring children & pregnant women since 90’s and ACA since2010.
Every single representative reprsesents their district. This new candidate could not have won in my district and that is fine. This nonsense of representing a new wave is harming unity in the party. She was treated respectfully and supportively by her apponent and by Pelosi.
I also live in the district in Jackson Heights. I stuck with Crowley because of seniority and constituent services. If you look at the vote by election district and neighborhood Ocasio-Cortez’ won with White voters. Many of them are younger Generation X and millennial voters who are dissatisfied or have no connection to old machine politics.
Thank you. I read her statement about Pelosi differently, but maybe there’s something else out there where she says she won’t support Pelosi as Speaker. This story says she won’t endorse her, followed by her statement that it’s too early. First things first. Take back the House, and then worry about the leadership battles. This article didn’t say (nor did Ocasio-Cortez) that she would not support Pelosi when that time comes. You’re right about her being a corner of the Party. She’s also been put into a corner by the media looking to stir up problems within the Party. I think she’s handling the attention very well. She is carefully measuring her words. She is not saying Pelosi should go. She is saying that she wants to win back the House first, and then see who is best fit to serve as Majority Leader. That could be Pelosi. That might not be Pelosi. She is using this ambiguity to gather support for her general election, and to let the current leadership know that BAU is changing. She is also being very careful not to map out any prescribed change that would immediately create an adversarial relationship within the Party. Again, first things first.
All this is easy to say as a bystander. I’m not in her shoes. I just see the media prodding her into picking a fight with Pelosi, and her not taking the bait. She does want change. Otherwise she would not have run for office, but i think (i could also be wrong) that she ran for office to work for that change,and not to force it.
This article is not saying what you are hearing. I think the headline is accurate. She is withholding support. That is not an endorsement, neither is it a refusal of support. I think it is entirely appropriate at this stage. We can certainly read into it, kinda like people are doing with Pelosi’s nuanced response to the question of whether the win by Ocasio-Cortez means the party will be taken over by the Socialist Democrats.
Well, that was the point. What criticism does Pelosi deserve, exactly?
What’s clear from Pelosi’s remarks is that she attributes Ocasio-Cortez’s win to her policy positions being more left in an increasingly leftist district, when all indications seem to point to the fact that she was better organized, hit the streets, outhustled and worked harder than a more complacent Conley. As for her policy choices, the new “socialism” sure looks like the old “New Deal” to me.
I don’t know. I personally don’t believe in hell so you’re barking up the wrong tree with that tired line with me.
On this issue? None. Neither does Ocasio-Cortez. They both said and did what they needed to.
Did you get that, @moderately?
You may believe nothing is perfect, but that’s just you.
You should have seen what they called the old “New Deal,” back in the day!
Ahh, yes. I remember that Contract with America.
T rumpp and Putin have now engineered a Contract ON America.
I think your affection for being abrasive undercuts the ability of your often insightful comments to effect positive change.
I doubt it, but if you really think so then you should feel free to provide the necessary translations!