I am 100% with you.
I’d certainly prefer leadership both understand and embrace the movement of the party in a proactive vs reactive way.
I’m only suggesting that not get in a tizzy if she does realize.
Certainly Blumenthal made a boneheaded statement yesterday, but more importantly he recognized it.
However that seems to be exactly where Nancy has been for the last few years.
FFS people…Republicans are afraid of Pelosi…that in itself is worth a lot.
Duh.
Hear, hear!
Their relationship was cordial but not friendly.
Pelosi’s job more or less requires her to say what she did about Crowley.
She is not only aware of the leftward trend in the party, she is encouraged by it, because Nancy Pelosi is a lifelong liberal.
Liked to infinity and beyond.
I don’t think all the old Democrats need to go. But I will he happy to see the average age brought down a decade or so.
As a middle-ager myself, I get a little tired of the old timers as well as the cult of youth.
At this point, infighting within the Democratic party is the last thing we need. For the love of god, can we please just find a way to come together - old guard, new guard, whatever - and work together to flip both Houses? If we don’t, I truly fear that our democracy is in major peril. Every district is different and both Ocasio-Cortez and Pelosi need to understand that.
It seems to me that once again we have Democrats fighting and criticizing the leadership and each other without reading or listening to what was actually said. We react to out of context quotes and opposition planted misrepresentations of Democratic comments. In this case, after reading the transcript of Pelosi’s comments she was actually bragging about the diversity of our party and excited to see more young females in the race.
First, “schoolgirl crush”? Crowley and Pelosi barely got along until recently. He was the fourth highest ranked Dem in the House who served his district for decades. I would be more disappointed if she didn’t release a glowing statement about him especially after his beyond gracious concession. Secondly, what she (not you) understands is that only 2 challengers have so far beaten Democratic incumbents. There doesn’t seem to be some Tea Party type wave happening here. What you need to understand is that the media loves to push the Dems in Disarray narrative. Anytime they can pounce on it as evidence that it’s all falling apart, they’ll do it because they know that people like you will gobble it up every single time.
You got it. I am familiar with this district. From what I’ve seen with the prior elections so far, there isnt a widespresad interest in electing more further Left candidates.
“I think that we’re in the middle of a movement in this country,” Ocasio-Cortez said to CNN’s Erin Burnett. “That movement is going to come from the bottom up, that movement is going to come from voters. There are a lot of really exciting races with extremely similar dynamics as mine—it’s not just one district.”
THIS is going to be a problem for her. She is delusional if she thinks she riding the crest of a political wave. Her job is to secure funding for her area and her constituents are going to expect her to come through for the area economically. They’re not going to be satisfied with hearing a bunch of political rhetoric about “a movement.”
Absolutely agree! But, encouraging the old guard to groom new talent is a very good idea. Ocasio-Cortez is making that point blatantly clear. Listening to her talk, i have yet to hear her say anything about dumping Pelosi. What i do hear her talking about is getting the Dem leadership to consider and include new and younger voices within their organizational structure. She wants her generation to have a seat at the table. Nothing more. Beyond that, there will be collective decisions made about the next generation of leadership and Party direction. She is not advocating a coup.
Apologies if this is coming across as cross. That’s not intended at all. From my POV, though, people are making much more out of this than it’s worth. I like Pelosi, and she needs to stay until a new generation of leadership is experienced enough to take over in her stead. I don’t hear Ocasio-Cortez saying anything different. She wants to be that new generation.
When you say “old”, I hear decrepit or out of touch or not having all her marbles, and it’s clear she’s none of these. She’s 77, and there are House and Senate members older than she, and where’s the call to go, other than a call for Feinstein to go. So I see a pattern. R’s make an issue of age, make an issue of her life-long liberal politics, decry her for those, and we pick up on them .
BTW she was going to retire when Clinton won, but no victory, no retirement. People neither respiect nor admire femalpols and she’s been the only female party leader in either chamber than I can think of, someone tell me if I’m wrong, a kind of dog-whistle sexism and ageism is always present in any discussion of her.
Nancy, you have passed your sale by date. We need more like Ocasio-Cortez, not “Republican lite”.
My understanding is that of the 29 Democratic incumbents who’ve faced a credible challenger Crowley is only the second to have fallen. While I’m not taking a damn thing away from Ocasio-Cortez, I think she’s quite fantastic, it’s foolish to view this particular race as a harbinger of things to come. There were several dynamics at play that had little to do with the progressive vs. establishment battle the far left believes this race represents. Crowley fell out of touch with his district in large part because his district got a lot browner and he didn’t.
The same could be said about Marie Newman in IL-03, but we all know where Pelosi stood on that race. Isn’t there a special place in hell for women who don’t help other women?
Exactly how I hear her. I don’t think she’s at all intending disrespect. She just wants to be part of the conversation. And I have no doubt in my mind that is exactly what Pelosi will do. This is yet another media created controversy that the far left is seizing on to sow division and manufacture their own narrative.
You have passed the idiocy test by once again repeating mindlessly Pelosi has to go. You need to be reminded Pelosi was ready to retire once Clinton won. No victory, no retirement.
Pelosi’s been supporting members of the House in their reelection bids for as long as she’s been there, but on with the new. Let’s make a newbie Speaker in January. Why not. She says all the right things in a CNN interview.
WTF???