This only harms the GOP if we make it so. The NYT and CNN won’t do this for us.
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Great and very true analogy.
Just like we needed Trump bring elected to remind everyone that there is a difference between the parties…
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You would think those white male RW Republican lawmakers in Alabama would want to keep abortion legal just in case they got their sisters pregnant.
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Incest and rape are not the same things in a general context. They are in this context, but as a whole, incest can happen with no rape or possible pregnancy involved. Being abused, even without rape, by a family member is harder to overcome than being abused by a stranger in my experience.
I don’t know how many people are affected by consensual incest. There is too much inherent power imbalance to believe it’s ever truly consensual. Groomed from childhood, how do you have a real choice?
Children born of incestuous rape have a far greater cost to society due do health problems.
I honestly can’t see that the scenario you lay out is possible, as by that age your are now dealing with consenting adults. Makes it hard to claim you were raped to use an incest exception. Which one is going to jail for incest? They can’t marry in most states, in some states they can if they can prove they aren’t fertile. So why would they set themselves up for jail or persecution for an incestuous relationship to get an abortion?
Sorry if this still doesn’t help your confusion.
Point is, if you believe a fertilized egg is a person, there should be no exceptions. Period. That the vast majority of people believe there should be exceptions shows the reality: none of us should be making a decision about continuing a pregnancy for anyone else.
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Yep, these AL yahoos have just handed the Dems a gift worth its weight. Even women or men without a stake in legal abortions are pissed off at the cold-blooded cruelty that drove this new law in AL.
These men are some mean mothers.
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They (like Pat Robertson) think this was an “overreach” and a TACTICAL ERROR.
They all want Roe overturned, they just wanted a case that had a better chance of success at the SCOTUS.
They feel this is just “a bridge too far” and is going to whip up too much opposition (and they are correct.)
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I don’t think we’re facing the problem you’re speaking of with images like this out in social media getting lots of attention:
Please note this comes from Chattanooga not Brooklyn.
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Thank you!
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Is this the part of kabuki theater where they expect democrats to “compromise” on a near total ban on abortion with the very narrow exception of rape (but only if the woman can provide proof) and the life of the mother (but only if both the mother AND the child would die)? It doesn’t matter if it’s rape, incest or failure or birth control. IT’S NONE OF THEIR EFFING BUSINESS.
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The many who just wanted anyone but an “establishment politician”, yes, I do expect them to change their minds. Suburban women made huge difference in 2018, this one hits younger women very hard. They never knew a time when abortion and birth control were illegal or required your husbands permission. It never occurred to them that right could disappear. Been speaking with a lot of them. They’ll be voting in 2020.
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Didn’t get mumps, all six of us had measles at the same time. Chicken pox went three oldest kids before the others were born, then the other three, 4 years later…
My teeth are still bad, my brothers were a bit older and did better with that.
In the time of Nixon, it was all a very cynical calculation to push on the emotions of the rubes (primarily to trigger racial animus), but as the decades have passed and the conservatives have been basting in this epistemically closed bubble, the rank-and-file (who believed the con) have bled into the elite (who knew it was a lie) and now the two are basically indistinguishable.
They’ve been steeped in the rhetoric for so long, they all (to some degree) believe the nonsense (except perhaps your Dick Cheneys and Mitch McConnells). Trump is just the ultimate Social Dominator, Double High, who morphs his views to whatever garners the most adulation for him. Trying to hobnob with the NY elite didn’t pan out for him, so he found that espousing hatred and animus toward the “other” got him the praise and attention he so desperately craved. The Republicans had spent years pushing their voters toward the rise of someone like Trump.
So Trump threw his lot in with the worst of the worst and they accepted him because they are completely convinced of the truth of the alternate reality that Nixon’s efforts created. They drank the kool-aid and now the GOP is reaping the whirlwind (to mix my metaphors).
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And when people say “that’s ridiculous they’d never go that far” here’s exhibit A people.
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I think it will also do permanent damage to Christianity and I am not one bit sorry about that.
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Still think they need to pass a bill requiring all women to log their menstrual cycles with the State, maybe via an app.
Otherwise there’s no telling how many potential abortions they might miss that need to be investigated.
And any woman of child-bearing age should be banned from drinking, smoking, or any other unhealthy habits which might interfere with the development of a baby and cause a spontaneous abortion.
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“I would now like to make the case to you that the Alabama abortion law is the most damaging development to the pro-life movement in decades.”
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And it falls off the news cycle if we let it.
Tomorrow there will be a new outrage.
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“Virtue-signalling.” I love that.
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Normally, I would agree with you. But, seeing as there are States lined up and waiting in the wings to do the exact same thing as AL, I think this has legs. Whether the Rethugs want it or not.
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