Discussion: Flags Uncovered In Trump Admin Vetting Docs Include 'White Supremacy,' 'Ties With Russia'

Trump’s legacy is secure. As the Bard tells us, “The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones.”

Trump’s bones are going to be lonely as fuck.

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Legacy?
Bbwwwaaahahahahahah-
Surely they were joking?

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Fighting cancer, working full time, raising 3 children as a single parent and still managed. The campaign season is only so long and not that hard to put other things aside, we do that every day. Called commitment. The time involved is not that much different from the parent who volunteers to coach youth softball, football, scouting, etc.

@castor I like much that you contribute but in this case, I believe, you are rather looking for excuses.

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And note it was not Sarah who was quoted. guess she really does have a problem speaking the truth.

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Not trying to come across as making excuses, but rather identifying the root causes, and proposing solutions.

If the Party at the National level didn’t wait for people to make moves in those currently non-competitive districts, but rather proactively reached out and recruited and seeded folks with starter money, we’d be more successful at getting people to run (and might surprise ourselves in some places).

The way that we’re moving into the eternal campaign seasons for the national-level positions, people running for Congress are often now having to dedicate more than a year to that, a significant investment.

Macro vs. micro economics. On the micro level, it doesn’t compute for the individual to waste their time on a losing proposition, so the macro level should be the one that figures out how to incentivize that participation.

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Don’t call me Shirley…

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The Trump campaign did VETTING??? Who knew?

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Thanks for that somewhat encouraging quote from Old Will. We may yet have that to look forward to, if we live long enough.

I know some northerners who moved to a Confederate state. They tell me that Dems are seen as “just for minorities”. That perception has not changed in decades.

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Only the best people?

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I understand where you come from, however, if you are waiting for the national folks to ID potential you have a very long, long wait. The national parties want that “big” win, they don’t seem to want to develop folks as they did in the past.

When I came home from Vietnam both major parties were very interested in talking. I listened as I had yet to think long term as a career. I spent the 68 primary season working as a poll watcher for both parties. What I saw turned me off to party politics and I therefore went onto a career in CS, ending as a COO. Go forward 20 years and I looked into the school board member gig as I was disgusted with the games that occurred. After my second win, Democrats came calling and I am sure I could have gone farther. I first had one question, had things changed from 68. When the answer was not forthcoming but rather the subject avoided I said thanks but no thanks. Point is without my initial movement no one at the state or national level would have paid attention.

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Oh, very fair point. It’s frustrating, because they could get a lot more mileage by doing so.

Howard Dean’s 50-State bit was the right approach. Be everywhere, and top-led. Totally writing off large areas means that people never even talk to a Democrat, hear anything that might actually influence them if not today, then down the road.

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Very true. The past 3 Senate races saw very little activity. In fact the first 2 I experienced I received zero mail from either party. At the time I was still watching TV and saw very few ads and even less on the radio. Come early voting time I saw many folks with signs for their favorite just outside the line, I don’t recall anything for the Dem. This past Senate election the Dems at least put up a fight. Yes, they lost to a mediocre person that few wanted to be associated with. The point was at least they tried and in the past they have won.

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Yep.

Add, if you only hear one side of the equation, you deserve what you get.

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You should probably talk to Howard Dean about that.

The 50-state strategy relied on the idea that building the Democratic Party is at once an incremental election by election process as well as a long-term vision in party building. Democrats cannot compete in counties in which they do not field candidates. Therefore, candidate recruitment emerged as a component element of the 50-state strategy.

ETA: Sorry, I see from your post just above that you are aware of what your solution sounds just like. Just ignore this.

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Nothing gonna change his legacy cause it’s already the worst in history.

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Actually I think they got it just about right as far as Trump was concerned.

But don’t impeach amirite?