Discussion: Debate Moderator Confronts GOP's Gardner On Personhood Bill Denials

I think this guy did it:

“It would seem that a charitable interpretation would be that you have a difficult time admitting when you’re wrong and a less charitable interpretation is that you’re not telling us the truth. Which is it?”

That is about as clear as he could be.

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Close, but no cigar.

I wanted him to say, “Mr. Gardner, were you wrong or are you just a liar?”

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“I think again…”

Oh, must’ve missed the first time.

Gardner’s ardent supporters know he is “lying for the Lord”, as do his ardent opponents. Both groups have already made up their minds about whom to vote for, and may have already so by mail. Less than ardent voters don’t know that Gardner deliberately lies, can’t imagine the concept of “lying for the Lord”, or don’t keep up with the political news, including debates. How they vote, or even if they vote in an off-year election, is whimsy.

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Tim Russert was a total fraud. He would ask the softest of
softball questions of republicans and ask gotcha questions of
dems. I witnessed him doing it many times. How anyone can say
he was anything but a tool of the republicans is beyond me.

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That’s pretty much what he said. Now, let’s leave out the question…what would be really great would be for him to say, “Mr Gardner, having ruled out all other options, I am left with the conclusion that you are simply a liar.”

—aaaaah. Sublime. Wouldn’t it be nice?

(Of course we hear similar stuff thrown at the President on any day at FOX. )

They will lie. Lying is a mater of principle for them–the principle of “what ever it takes”.

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This CO voter thinks K Clark rocks. see takedown of rep (I misspoke) Coffman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJfrvaCl4wA

Translation: Don’t pay attention to what I do, just listen to my latest denial. In a nut shell there you have todays GOP.

Kyle is a recently-promoted 10PM news anchor, and really sharp. Good on him. I wish he would have made Gardner address his conservative base by saying “I changed my mind and I share Sen Udall’s opposition to this legislation.”

But the math is pretty basic - Gardner is gambling that conservative voters won’t abandon him if he wiggles away from their medieval personhood crusade (they see him winking at them).

Udall has gambled the house by scaring independent women with a Gardner-wants-to-ban-abortion campaign, which I think is stupid, monotonous and doomed to failure. Gardner is (accurately, in my view) charging Udall with having nothing else to run on, and based on the numbers he’s winning that argument on the margins. Udall is de facto conceding that every other demographic hates him.

This is a perfect example of a campaign strategy driven by polling numbers alone, and it will mean that this contemptible weasel Gardner will be planting his lying butt into Udall’s Senate seat.

I like Udall and will vote for him, but his campaign has seriously stunk, and it pisses me off.

ask Gardner about a fed minimum wage and you get a biographical vomit on how he swept floors at his Father’s tractor store

I think my 'burb is the least of their concerns. This is Tom Tancredo’s old district. But still, could probably reach every Dem in Highlands Ranch in a weekend. No worries. Living in the mouth of the beast just makes my Dem vote stronger so they don’t have to waste time on this house.

I’m still in shock from such a blatant display of journalism. Clearly this guy didn’t learn the craft from Chuck “It’s Not My Job to Correct Falsehoods” Todd.

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I’m no great fan of Candy Crowley, but I do have to give her credit for correcting Romney’s assertion that Obama did not mention terrorism in his initial statement in the Rose Garden about the Bengazi attack. For that transgression, I doubt the Republicans will ever agree to allowing her to moderate another debate.

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And it’s on the ballot in order to get one issue voters to the polls to vote for Cory. There’s not a snowballs chance this actually gets approved in Colorado. Not anymore.

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The thing that made it noteworthy was that it was so out of character.

They’ve been using that term for some time now, and it annoys me, too, because it is not accurate. Pre-washed jeans are jeans that have been washed before you buy them; pre-shrunk cotton is cotton fabric that has been constructed to replicate the shrinking process by pushing the fibers close together – it is, in effect, already shrunk before it is ever used.

So it seems to me a pre-born child would be one that has already been born before it comes to the parents – an adopted child, in other words.

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It’s amazing how many people, not just politicians though they’re the worst offenders, think “I’ve said this before” supports their argument.

It shakes your faith in humanity that Gardner is a toss-up to win.

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Also, the Colorado Springs area is a hotbed of “Christian” conservatism. The Air Force Academy is there, as are the headquarters of some mega-churches. It’s quite the Republican stronghold.

Indeed. I was gobsmacked.