Biden Heads To Hill Before Leaving For Europe | Talking Points Memo

That is an impressive list!!! Considering the bare majority we have, I think we should be proud of this.

18 Likes

I’m not going to assign any blame but there is plenty to go around. From the start, the Dems and Biden agenda was far too ambitious for the narrow margins they held in Congress – if they ever existed at all. They did have a mandate from the people, but not from the entire caucus. Rs, for all their evil doings, always manage to get everyone to fall in line with their big proposals. (Killing Obamacare being a notable exception.)

Bottom line is the Progressives got rolled again, first in allowing Biden and Manchin and Sinema to tout a ā€œbipartisanā€ infrastructure bill on a false promise of support for a larger agenda. Biden was for it, but the others were not. My opinion is that in order to get R votes for it, Manchin and Sinema had to promise them (quietly) that they would kill the Progressives during reconciliation since they weren’t with them anyway. So they could be the ā€˜bipartisan’ heroes and F the Left. Everything we’ve seen since seems to fit that suggestion.

Progressive always get rolled because they are perceived as weak. Unfortunately, if they decide to grow a spine this time, they just crush themselves because they will hand the country back to Rs and end up with nothing. Some Progressives seem to think that’s OK, but they couldn’t even win the country cleanly against Trump!

Why? Because their messaging SUCKS and they don’t even seem to realize it!! ā€œDefundā€ cost them a dozen house seats and perhaps a non-Manchin/Sinema controlled Senate.

So now the Progressives are left with taking nothing and losing everything, or hoping that after Manchin and Sinema and some House ā€œmoderatesā€ (Dem liars, is what I consider them) are sated with their lousy ā€œhardā€ infrastructure ā€œdealā€ (I say ā€˜con’) with Rs is passed in the House, that they won’t be so obstructive on at least some of the rest of the agenda.

From where I set, Manchin and Sinema seem intent on destroying Biden and the entire D party and handing the country to Trump and the worst of the worst. That’s the Progressives only real leverage, assuming Manchin doesn’t mind another Trump presidency – this time for life!

2 Likes

It is and far more focused and easier to message. It is pro family.

10 Likes

Last night someone posted a twitter link imagining what things would be like if we didn’t have a majority, something like Cruz not voting to restart the Government unless Biden agreed to slashing Medicare.

6 Likes

What is horrifying is that the government wants to deny the 1st Amendment rights of those making the threats.

Walk away, Joe.

Except this shit:

Rewarding Red States for not expanding Medicaid by giving their folks additional help to buy regular insurance in the marketplace. Everyone already knows that Medicaid is the most-hated coverage by providers, so now Red Staters get to keep private insurance, have all the goodies.

Terrible fucking move.

5 Likes

Make the Senate vote on the BBB first.

7 Likes

Sorry, but I strongly disagree. They tried with a paper thin majority. Get what you can get. It’s a huge benefit for all. Work hard to increase your majority at the midterms, and then come back for more and finish the job when Manchinema’s block can be ignored. That is how our government has always worked and how it will continue to work. Accept what large fraction of your policy you can get, and then work to get the next chunk of it passed, and repeat until you pass your agenda. In the meantime, ignore all of this failure nonsense in the press and let’s collectively get to work and finish the job. This administration has been multitasking, and let it continue to do so. Think of the global tax on businesses along with the stimulus package and now this plan as a start, and productively move on from there. So much left to do, but we do have the time. But we need additional numbers in the party in Congress.

25 Likes

So, punishing the poor and working poor because they live in red states is better than offering them a bit of help? Providers do not like Medicare either.

9 Likes

Walk away, Joe.

I’m … kinda with ya. It’s become embarrassing and far far from the End of the World!

1 Like

Agree, we need larger majorities to pass the next chunk. Time’s a wastin’.

4 Likes

Rewarding them for voting Republican by giving them a better deal than their peer in a neighboring blue state is bullshit.

3 Likes

Apparently, so far President Biden is the only one who agrees to his ā€œframework.ā€ It’s what he HOPES to get Dems to settle for. Progressives have to stand firm.

1 Like

No bif without bbb.

8 Likes

The petroleum industry destroying the planet is protected. Young parents are crushed. . It is about half the size it should be. About par for the course for the most conservative liberal party on the planet.

3 Likes

They’re at least getting something.

Which is more than all the young non-parents are getting.

8 Likes

There is that.

2 Likes

That’s right. Put the assholes on permanent record and use it to campaign on in 2022. There’s nothing like negative publicity to scare the political hacks.

18 Likes

Let us not forget that the 2 bills combined will be $2.95T in infrastructure stimulus if Joe’s $1.75T reconciliation framework passes.

20 Likes