Discussion: Zinke: Taking Down Confederate Statues Will Upset ‘Native Indians’

Zinke failed history. Native Americans are upset about monuments carved on the lands stolen from them and of a president responsible for killing their ancestors.

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When someone as oily and greasy as Zinke throws something it isn’t going to stick to anything but shoes as it plops to the ground with a thud.

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He went on to say that these same Native Indians would be pleased to have a destructive pipe line complex destroy their water table in the Dakotas…they would welcome it…

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Yep. There are two terms that I’ve heard used in place of the other:

Native American OR
American Indian.

I’ve also heard that different indigenous American groups respond to the terms in different ways. Zinke is a rabid racist moron who couldn’t form a coherent “argument” as to what American Indians and confederate statues have to do with one another. But, in his mind, it made sense.

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Famous last words:

I don’t know, General Custer, the Indians seemed happy at the dance last night?

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Renaming it Let’s Eradicate Emancipation H.S. is a long-overdue tribute to all the benefits that slavery bestowed upon slaves.

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Plus, ZInke knows that the slavering base is too stupid to figure any of this out.

He’s got a point. Just look what happened when we let the black man vote–pretty soon women started expecting the same thing…

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Mr Zinke
The Indigenous people who live where I do are pretty much over the past/ They have served in the military. One even helped raise the flag on Mt Suribachi on Iwo Jima and is in that famous photo.
Back in the day the Apache were not fond of any uniform. Neither were the Comanche, Sioux or any other tribe Zinke might be familiar with.

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it would upset “native Indians.” …Horse Crap! - cite your evidence for this fabrication.

  • am getting more & more convinced that Trump is saying & sending people out to say - things that make absolutely no sense whatsoever - all as a war of attrition against common sense and basic intelligence -
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Surveys of native Indian residents of Bengaluru and New Delhi this morning did not confirm Zinke’s statement. “I did not know there was a modern effort to take down Maratha Confederacy monuments,” one survey respondent observed. “Didn’t the Tipu of Mysore do that 200 years ago? How is that offensive now?”

“It’s more offensive,” continued the respondent, “to have left them up for so long.”

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In point of fact, pretending these Confederate statues are just innocent monuments to Southern courage and honor, and not monuments to white supremacy in the Jim Crow South, is “erasing history.”

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Native Americans do not give a shit about your monuments that were erected during the Civil Rights Movement to pander to racists.

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Ah, a rich white guy telling us “native Indians” what we do and don’t like. How refreshing!

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Wow. Three upside down-isms in one morning:

The Secretary who doesn’t know what to call Native Americans, is “concerned” about upsetting them.

Rump’s tax plan is for truck drivers.

Contraceptives don’t prevent pregnancy.

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Zinke is moving up the list of cabinet members to resign next. Travel expenses, use of gov’t planes for political purposes which violates the law, ignorant statements which cause bad press.

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So if history is so important why is every single Republican doing their best to erase the legacy of Barack Obama. Oh that’s right . . . because you are all racist assholes.

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Boolean Basics for Bamboozled Conservatives:

“History” ≠ “Statues.”

The erection of statues is historical. Statues may memorialize past events or personages. Some stattes are art for art’s sake. The erection of the rest are inherently political acts meant to perpetuate explicitly political narratives and ideas. The underlying motives and timing and placement of a statue may be of interest to historiographers and the details of the statuary of itself is certainly important to art historians. But statues are not history. History is history.

“National Anthem” ≠ “Flag” ≠ “Veterans”

A national anthem is a form of civil ritual that is often part of ceremonies. It is not the flag. Neither the National Anthem nor the flag are “veterans.” “Veterans” are people who were formerly in the armed services and, in common parlance, people who saw combat while in the armed services. Veterans are not symbols. They are people.

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No. Each plaque should be replaced by one that says something like “This traitor took up arms against the United States of America for the sole purpose of owning other humans.”

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Sorry, asshole, there aren’t any confederate statues on the reservations which is where your department makes them live. And they aren’t “native Indians.” Those would be living in Calcutta maybe.

Trump - the wors president only hires the worst people.
Go figger.

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