Why The Fake Electors Are About A Lot More Than Fake Electors - TPM – Talking Points Memo

So, why the fake electors?

To some, it seems like an odd entry point for the Justice Department to take into President Trump’s attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election. Groups of state-level GOP officials lying about who won their state in an effort to proclaim that Trump was the “real” victor.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1427221
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Rfist

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Excellent summary. Incisive too.

to pressure state officials into throwing out Biden’s win and to turn the Jan. 6 joint session of Congress into the denial – and not the certification – of Biden’s win.

Trump perverts.

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Reversing the people’s vote is tyranny. Taking away women’s rights is tyranny. I may be seeing a pattern forming here.

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Oh, my, just gorgeous!

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The fake elector scheme was the path laid out by the Republican Supreme Court for stealing a presidential election. That is why Trump tried it.

The problem was the election was in truth just not that close and would have required a minimum of three state legislatures to try and overturn the people’s results.

It is being investigated for potential prosecution because it is easy to understand, involves many higher level Republicans at the State and Federal level, involves several less important Republicans making flipping an issue (becoming witnesses for the prosecution) and above all else a necessary part of the plot to keep Trump in power because short of declaring the constitution and democracy dead, Trump still needed a way to show some legal theory for his staying in power.

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Going after the organization writ large, they can prosecute as racketeering?

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Did anyone in Trumpland tell Pete Navarro that he was admitting to a conspiracy to commit fraud, in multiple interviews? Ari Melber tried a couple of times, on his show, but Navarro just kept talking.

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Are the people involved in this going to face any legal consequences? The RW noise machine already has their “Witch Hunt” chevrons ready to go.

If they don’t, we’ll get the real deal in 2024.

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The Georgia Fake Electors are not necessarily the most important folks, but they are the sort of MAGA dirtbags and local big fish that need to go down. It would be salutary for these folks, cogs in the local party infrastructure, to get time.

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Excellent exposition, Josh Kovensky.

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I think “counterfeit” is the term that should be used. That word rightfully implies criminality. “Fake” is far too jokey for the circumstances.

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“Fraudulent” is apt.

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Letter to the Kansas City Star. I see a Dem strategy here.

It’s about trust

I am a pro-life, moderate Republican who voted no on the Kansas abortion amendment, like many moderates did. Lots of moderates voted no not to give a woman a choice, but rather, because as we read the amendment, we realized the real question was, “Can we trust the Kansas Legislature to do the right thing for every Kansan, in every situation, every time?”

Sadly, the answer was no.

- Jeffrey Gudmens, Leavenworth

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If nothing else the “fake electors” proved it is time to get rid of the Electoral College which is a relic of the past.

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Joseph Brannan: Brannan is treasurer of the Georgia Republican Party, a media executive, and a leader in the Muscogee County party.

James “Ken” Carroll: Carroll is assistant secretary for the Georgia Republican Party.

Vikki Townsend Consiglio : Consiglio is assistant treasurer for the Georgia Republican Party and is on the board of governors for the Georgia Republican Foundation.

Carolyn Hall Fisher: Fisher is first vice chairman for the Georgia Republican Party.

State Sen. Burt Jones : Jones has been a member of the Georgia state Senate since 2013, representing the 25th District located south and east of Atlanta. He is running for lieutenant governor and is endorsed by Trump.

Gloria Kay Godwin: Godwin is a local Republican Party leader in Blackshear and the co-founder of grassroots group Georgia Conservatives in Action, according to her LinkedIn profile. In September 2020, she was accused of stalking after allegedly attempting to interfere in a citizen effort to obtain signatures for a recall election petition for Godwin’s grandson, District Five City Council member Shawn Godwin. She told the Blackshear Times that she was unaware of the complaint.

David G. Hanna: Hanna was CEO and co-founder of Atlanticus Holdings Corp., an Atlanta-based financial holding company, until he left the post in March 2021.

Mark W. Hennessy: Hennessy is the CEO of several car dealerships around the Atlanta area.

Mark Amick : Amick is on the board of governors for the Georgia Republican Foundation. In 2019, Amick unsuccessfully ran for city council in Milton. In 2020, he served as a local poll watcher and testified in a hearing after the election that he saw more than 9,000 votes wrongly go to Joe Biden during the first Georgia recount.

John Downey: Downey is a House district chair for the Cobb County Republican Party.

Cathleen Alston Latham : Latham is an economics teacher with the Georgia Virtual School, according to her LinkedIn profile.

Daryl Moody: Moody is a GOP donor who is currently the chairman of the Georgia Republican Foundation.

Brad Carver: A lawyer focused on energy, utilities, environmental and local government law, Carver is a member of the Republican National Lawyers Association. Carver represents clients before the Georgia Public Service Commission in the Georgia General Assembly.

David Shafer* : Shafer is chairman of the state GOP and a Georgia state senator from 2003 to 2019 who was state Senate president pro tempore for many of those years. In 2018, he ran for lieutenant governor and lost in the primary. He was also accused that year of sexual harassment by a lobbyist, but was cleared by the Senate ethics committee.

Shawn Still:* Still is a board member of the Faith and Freedom Coalition in Georgia and is finance chair of the Georgia GOP.

C.B. Yadav : A small business owner in Camden County, Yadav is a member of the Georgians First Commission under the governor’s office. He was an early supporter of Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp’s gubernatorial campaign and worked as part of his campaign’s “grassroots army.”

Party wheelhorses, MAGA dirtbags, racists hacks and pigs, need to go down.

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I wonder if any of these people are also involved in trying to recall the Fulton County DA. Since they’ve decided it’s better to politicize her than face the case, they must be guilty as hell.

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Which is entirely the point, to keep your opponent off balance. It may be an odd entry point, but it also may be the easiest to prove. Which in turn makes it easier to go after harder targets.

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as you point out, it wouldn’t have mattered.
I’d guess that, like Donnie, they’re proud of all of their twisted efforts.
Likely, they validate their self-image – stable genius, you know?

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A government powerful enough to prevent someone from having an abortion is powerful enough to compel someone to have an abortion.

Think on that pro-lifers.

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