Originally published at: Who Got Duped? MAGA Activists Worry That Nativism And Tech Oligarchy May Not Go Hand In Hand - TPM – Talking Points Memo
It’s not always a great idea to cover political stories that exist entirely on social media. You can end up focused on narratives and disputes that unfold largely among the most online subset of political commentators, but that don’t show up anywhere in the real world. More importantly, you run the risk of manipulation by…
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I’m having a hard time not laughing over this story. Like deep big belly laughs. Does it make me a bad person, that I like to see MAGAs eating their own?
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Tom Homan incoming border czar wants to separate families mostly out of cruelty. I suggest he be separated from his relatives. They should be deported to Europe with just the clothes on their backs. Or they be jailed on account of because, as my mom used to say about various things not related to immigration.
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Could not even get to Jan 20 before forming a circular firing squad. Shadenfreude^2 for me.
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I’d love to see who does the maintenance work around the Homan household. Chances are quite good that a fair number of them who are hired by those contractors are asylum applicants or have other status papers.
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This H1B topic is near and dear to my heart.
When I started in software applications consulting in the mid 1990’s, the job sector grew leaps and bounds with American talent. Very few non-Americans on a consulting team. Gradually, more and more Asians came on board and now, today, I am generally the only American-born team member working on a project. Rates for consulting fell precipitously during that time as H1B’s literally came and took jobs at lower rates away from people who had been highly qualified and who understood American business.
Now we have a tough time bringing a project in on time and under budget. There are communication barriers as well for some recent immigrants, where language skills are lacking.
The market for kids coming up through to grow up in my industry is shut down. There was actually one university in Ohio that had a program to develop talent in the software space. I don’t know if it exists anymore.
In his first administration, the President-elect said he was going to shut down the program. He didn’t do it because the oligarchs liked the cheaper labor, even though rework doubled and tripled the cost of a project.
Those of us that started out in the 90s are retiring, leaving the industry to visa candidates and shutting out American talent. No one seems to care.
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So, once again it’s a class war. Agriculture hires illegal immigrants vs Tech who supports HB-1 Visas for educated immigrants. The nativists want neither as it’s all about color and the “browning” of America, lol…
America still struggling with their racist progeny that,only want Euro immigrants. Now who will prevail in this age old classicists vs the masses?
And how can Democrats benefit? Which matters more to nativists the browning of America or boys claiming to be girls (based on their feelings) competing in female sports. Will the working class come back to Dems or continue to resist DEI?
And then there are the educated American professionals pushed aside for HB-1 visa holders who now dominate the medical profession, will IT be next? Those are not jobs Americans won’t do. Until the wages begin to fall from numerous foreign grads like they did in medical field. Then Americans opt out as the ROI for 6-8 years of education are no longer cost-effective.
Such a genetic dilemma. Lol
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This ignorant take is both erroneous and cruel.
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100%. Follow the money.
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Welcome to our comment crowd
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And of course, the incoming clown show wants to gut the Dept. of Education while decrying America’s “less educated and motivated” workforce.
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MAGA: The Donnie Party meets the Donner Party. So be it.
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No, it makes you a humanitarian. If they didn’t eat their own they might starve.
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Might we have splitters and intraparty purity purges to look forward to?
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Yes ! Yes, you are a very bad person ! 
(snark )
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Actually, this may be a interesting fight that requires a lot of popcorn! However, it also highlights the chasm that exists socially and economically between the Oligarchs (Elmo and Ramaswamy) and the MAGA True Believers (working class voters in Red Hats). If you’re struggling in the Rust Belt just to put food on the table, you are not going to look very favorably on a bunch of “furriners” being imported to earn (in your mind) hugh salaries
to peck away at computer keyboards all day!
The answer is a blend. Bring some of the geeks in for a set period of time (10 years?), and
create that “Sputnik” project of incenting students to concentrate on STEM-related education trajectories that will create a steady flow of students into and out of BS , MS, and PHD programs needed for tech success in the future. There is nothing that says you can’t have Friday Night Lights and grow Steve Erkles at the same time!
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This clash was inevitable. My guess is it won’t be confined to highly educated workers. The issues the deportations pose for factory farms (as opposed to smaller family farms) are existential. Very few of these farms can function without undocumented immigrant labor.
I just had a new roof put on my house after a hailstorm. The guys who I signed the contract with were all white Americans. The roofing crew that came out and did the excellent job were ALL Hispanic and NOT ONE could speak English. We used hand gestures to communicate. I would guess that many were undocumented. (They played Mariachi music to keep the crew happy - I am not making this up).
Trump’s deportation plan is wholly unrealistic and will run into two huge problems. Insufficient funding and staffing for law enforcement and a political backlash from both corporate America AND small business owners who are losing much of their workforce that will be unprecedented.
Same for the tariff plan. The first group to get hurt will be small businesses (like mine) that purchase commodities and components from overseas to build their products for US markets. The second will be the Fortune 500 who will not only have to pay tariffs on their imports, but will also suffer FROM foreign countries defending their markets from US exports and Trump.
It all will come to a roaring clusterfuck in the first year of Trump’s second term. Can’t wait.
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“A culture that celebrates the prom queen over the math olympiad champ, or the jock over the valedictorian, will not produce the best engineers”
Billionaire Republicans hate America.
Especially, our culture, values, and traditions.
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