On the Fordow nuclear plant, most likely. Good excuse that there’s nothing else that could take that mountain site out.
Trump Tries To Bully GA Sec Of State Into Overturning Results In Unhinged Call | Talking Points Memo
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Have you talked to Ted Cruz recently?
Same way he came in. Funny how that goes.
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Hopefully, the full hour will be released to the public.
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No, they do not have a legal way of doing it.
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Better yet, it was extortion of a Georgia state official to commit election fraud in the state of Georgia.
Sounds like a state crime to me, and he can’t pardon state crimes.
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Funny how he can’t even control his virulent misogyny when it comes to Cleta Mitchell. Whenever she attempts to make a legal argument in his favor he still has to shut her down since as a mere woman she can’t be allowed to know better than him.
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The one for ATL is for the real President.
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Opening on National evening news, hubba hubba.
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Warning, never ever invite a vampire into your home. Because once it they won’t leave, without sucking you dry first. And incurable rash that no matter what prescribed ointment to apply, the rash will return After a few days just getting used to not feeling the effects of it ever ending discomfort. Or a terminal disease that no matter what you do to cure yourself shortly after a much hope for remission . T The evil possession of your being buy a poltergeist or the devil himself. A possession that lasts it seems forever, maybe if we calling a priest with some holy water that would work.
The M’Naughten Rules
"- that every man is to be presumed to be sane, and … that to establish a defence on the ground of insanity, it must be clearly proved that, at the time of the committing of the act, the party accused was labouring under such a defect of reason, from disease of the mind, as not to know the nature and quality of the act he was doing; or if he did know it, that he did not know he was doing what was wrong."
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@kaltx posted the full hour above
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Haven’t heard it but I saw some references that made me think it was. The WaPo had highlights but people here were talking like the whole thing was out there.
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Well, this is how Faux Noise is reporting it:
The comments on the story are real interesting too.
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I dunno.
Under 1., old-line Republicanicity doesn’t require any sort of reciprocity in the relationship? Maybe the president is your liege lord, if that’s your atavistic belief system, but doesn’t your lord owe you any sort of protection and support in return for your fealty? Trump hasn’t sufficiently savaged Raffensperger in the past, with threats based on charges that Raffensperger is a criminal whom Trump will see prosecuted and punished, threats repeated quite explicitly here? And if any loyalty remains after that, the vassal is going to release the tape of the conversation? Nothing about this affair is very old-line. Back when the lord might expect a vassal to find 12,000 votes under a rock or something, the lord knew how to conduct such an affair without coming across as a moron
As for 2., well, at some point continuing to listen to a criminal make his threats and offer you his enticements to commit crime, implies openness to accede to committing some crimes, if opnly the price is right. Having the department’s counsel listening in on the call would, it seems to me, create a powerful incentive to do two things: stop listening after the criminal nature of what you’re being asked to do becomes clear, and/or push back very clearly and explicitly by telling the president that what he is proposing in asking for a “recalculation” of votes is criminal, and non-criminals do not do crimes.
As for 3., and what I take is your point that maybe Raffensperger was trying to string along a criminal to get him to be more explicitly criminal in a taped conversation, I guess that’s a reasonable motivation to impute, but even there, it seems to me that Trump got sufficiently explicit pretty early. Listening beyond that point, without push back and pointing out to Trump that what he was asking was criminal, would not, it seems to me, add anything to what the president had already said early, before Raffensperger had encouraged him, arguably entrapped him, by not pushing back. Refusing to go along with Trump on his initial proposal could be interpreted as just a bargaining tactic. “Offer me a bigger bribe.” How does this help any future criminal prosecution of Trump
I’m not sure that the fact of Georgia allowing recording phone conversations without consent of both parties would be an important factor in anyone’s mind. Trump was told that others beside Raffensperger were listening to the call on Raffensperger’s end, and surely Trump knew that others were listening in on his own end. Trump, as per usual, just doesn’t get the whole concept of conflict of interest. He makes an official call to the GA Secy of State, with staff on both ends listening in, then goes on to offer Raffensperger promises and threats, to get something in his private interest, that even the dullest criminal would understand should not be made with any witnesses, live witnesses or taped recordings.
That Raffensperger released the tape makes perfect sense. He almost had to, if only to establish an innocence that listening to criminal proposals for so long and without pushback had potentially cast into some doubt. What I don’t understand is why he and his counsel listened for so long in the first place, and created the need to go public with this.
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The Lincoln Project could take the audio of this shakedown and just clip out the seven or eight times Trump says he “needs” only 11,000 votes.
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The House sergeant-at-arms should have met its fat ass at the chamber door and told it that it’s not entering without a mask … not today, not tomorrow, not ever until it puts one on.
It should be informed that, if it doesn’t want to wear a mask, arrangements can be made for its workspace to be moved elsewhere.
The FBI has declared QAnon a domestic terror threat; that should be enough to make a stand, votes or no votes. You have to make a statement, not capitulate to domestic terrorists. See: Roland Burris, 2009. Burris was eventually seated but he had to jump over some hurdles first because of the political corruption of his patron. By the time he was seated, everyone was clear on the issue and Burris was pretty much guaranteed little more than ignominy until he decided not to run for a full term and left the Senate in November 2010. I’m a big fan of the shun.
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I hear you. Sigh…pass the pizza this way.
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Aside from Trump’s threats and possibly illegal action, Dominion should be in the courthouse first thing tomorrow.
Ya Basta!
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At this point, anyone who talks to the Orange Shitgibbon better be taping the conversation.
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