President Donald Trump and his reelection campaign seized on the chaos of Monday’s Iowa Democratic caucuses, the results of which are still unknown as of Tuesday morning due to technical issues with the tallying process.
Regardless of what actually happened, who is going to believe that there wasn’t some external influence? Thank you, GOP, for taking away our assumption that we will ever have fair elections again and making people even more cynical.
Of course trump never screws up and wins all the time.
Bletch.
Nice job Russia.
Well hell, really, I am not sure what to think but it was entertaining to hear all the victory speeches.
It’s Iowa. A small state that’s not going to bear much for either presidential candidate. It’s a caucus. Inherently prone to clusterfuckery so no surprise here. And it’s essentially a trial run. Some time today the results will be known. I live in Florida and remember the 2000 gold standard clustefuck that was the presidential election there. Not a caucus in a small state but the entire presidential election was in the balance and no GOP’er blamed Jeb Bush for the mess. It was probably intentional to mask over a deliberate manipulation that let the real winner lose.
Who cares. Like Josh Marshall says “Caucuses suck” and the proof is in the pudding.
Just looking at the various venues on TV and how this caucus was supposed to work it seemed like a cluster ready to happen
The home page state this:
Trump And His Campaign Pounce On Democrats’ Iowa Caucus Disaster
The article heading is this:
“Trump And His Campaign Pounce On Dems’ Iowa Caucus Fiasco”
You know what these are? CLICKBAIT
A Fiasco or a Disaster would mean they’d have to do the entire thing over. I’m actually disappointed that TPM would post such hyperbole headlines.
Let’s put this into perspective. Stop looking at this electronic glitch as a disaster and take it as a heads up. Don’t rely on technology to do what people should be doing. I read that Iowa told the DNC last week there was a problem with the app but obviously they didn’t listen. This is not a hand wringing event-it is a opportunity to go back to paper and stick with it because it’s the only reliable option. What was wrong with how the caucus was done in previous years? Nothing. As the saying goes if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. With all the voting machine problems over the years why would the DNC even go this route. Flood the DNC with emails telling them to stop messing with things when there is no track record on how it works.
Don’t feed into the tRump and MSM hysteria. It’s a bump in the road that can easily be smoothed out but only if people stop treating it as if it’s some sort of sign of doom. Good grief.
I am no fan of voting machines. And I agree @redpill, it wasn’t broke before.
This all makes you kinda miss Chad.
Seriously, this is the best possible outcome. No one is able to legitimately claim a win among rural white people. Hoping for a five-way tie in New Hampshire, too. The sooner we put those two states behind us and get on to South Carolina, the better.
Of course it was a disaster…but not worse than Trump who is a living disaster every day.
Yeah, no matter how you cut it, the optics on this are just horrific… There will be repercussions and they aren’t good. If nothing else, it just perpetuates the “Dems in dissarray” storyline.
Idjits.
At least we’re consistent
Gloom Brigade will get in formation this morning and, hopefully, focus on trying not to sadden too many people beyond their quota. Anyway:
(1) As you say, who cares?
(2) If this had happened to the GOP, it would be messaged as though they had just won the Super Bowl
(3) And, since people are in to all kinds of conspiracy-theorizing, maybe a Good Guy Intel operative deliberately messed with the Iowa app so that Trump would get even more full of himself (which has happened) and then go off the rails tonite at the SOTU**
** After all, it was Trump feeling full of himself after the less-than-punishing Mueller appearance last July that led to him messing with Ukraine like he did and getting himself Impeached. Trump is his own Worst Enemy and I suspect (app or not) he WILL go off the rails tonight
And if it wasn’t some “tampering”, it will just encourage it for next time. Sorry for being part of the gloom brigade, I’ll get over it. Unfortunately however, lots of not reliable voters might not.
The Forces of Evil need no encouragement.
Let’s us NOT forget:
GOP had a screw up in Iowa in 2012 delaying for 2 weeks the result between Romney and Santorum!
…“Don Jr. and Eric Trump’s efforts to fuel discord among Democrats with evidence-free talk of “rigging.”
Talk about hypocrisy and projection as their father always screwed things up and as the GOP Senate/IMPotus is rigging the impeachment trial!
Dear Democrats and Independents…
Whoever becomes the Democratic nominee is infinitely better than IMPotus/GOP who are cruel, corrupt and a criminal/co-conspirators!
Chill and focus = VoteBlue2020~
P.S. And just remember, IMPotus strolls towards Air Force One with TRAILING TOILET PAPER! What a screw up!
This is EXACTLY the reason the GOP wins.
Well, when you eliminate the rest of the candidates, yeah, you pretty much win all the time.
How many States have cancelled their GOP primaries this year in an effort to have no contest for the nomination?
Humm the election crapola starts now? Man I really hope the final doesn’t have a lot of crap and a D wins but a convincing amount but not so much that Rs bitch and moan about cheating.
