THIS CHART: State-By-State Winners And Loser Under Trump’s Census Power Grab | Talking Points Memo

Texas, California and Florida are likely to be the state losers under a President Trump’s new policy of excluding undocumented immigrants from the count used to dole out House seats, according to Pew analysis Friday.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1322314

Never time to do it right, but there’s always time to do it over. Guess what a Biden administration will be doing in 2021, among other things?

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Not to belittle the major constitutional issue here, but as a practical matter for the Republicans, this appears to be a rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic proposition.

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Ratfuckers gotta ratfuck.

They know they can’t win a legitimate election.

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Yeah, when I saw he was going to do this, my first thought was, “Please proceed.”

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Shows what a massive non-issue this ends up being. Big to-do over not very much at all, and definitely not a clear “win” for republicans at all.

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Legitimizing the exclusion of non-citizen residents in state legislature redistricting is very much a big deal.

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Yeah, but isn’t giving a finger to immigrants really its own award?

Miller will be a real stallion with that poor young woman whose family I assume he has being held in an undisclosed location.

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Trump’s orders in this regard are clearly unconstitutional and will no doubt be blocked by the courts. But even if not, how will the census bureau know how many undocumented immigrants are being counted since the courts blocked asking the question about citizenship?

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That part will fall apart. The stuff for re-apportionment is the only bit due this year.

As long as Biden wins, they’ll just reverse the rest of it in the new year.

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“If the policy is allowed to go into effect, Texas, California and Florida will each be granted one fewer House seat after the 2020 census than they would have gotten using total population…”

Sure, sure – but how many more House seats does Greenland get?

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I know what you mean. Superficially she wouldn’t appear to be in the same league as a pasty glue-eating ghoul, but it seems that their disgusting psyches are a perfect match. I think the were actually meant for each other and her family is just hiding from sheer shame, just as his is.

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Republicans never ask how, just how many. Sort of like TRump’s golf game.

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Um, has anyone asked how, exactly, they’re going to “exclude illegal immigrants” without a citizenship question on the census?

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Yeah I knew Texas would lose big. That is obvious.

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This is justification to put that question on the census, but they are way to late to actually get that done.

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They are going to use “other data” within the government (some of which probably isn’t allowed to be used for something like this), and then some statistical modeling (which is prohibited by law). So, really, they ill probably just make up some numbers that feel right to them, and that hurt the blue states more…it’s about as valid as what they are trying to do.

And, when you look at the numbers, it’s obvious that this is basically pointless. Republicans hardly gain anything doing this, but they lose the moral stance bigly. It really is just meant to hurt immigrants, nothing more…and, I’m sure they intend to expand this to “citizens only”, or even try things like “property owners only” if they get a chance in the future.

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It’s not a huge game-changer, but those seats taken away in Texas and Florida would have gone to urban areas where the population growth is taking place. Giving them to Alabama and Ohio probably isn’t going to turn those seats blue.

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Greenland will also get, but only of they ask nicely, isolation gowns that look like garbage bags to be used in the nursing homes. “Look Ma, no hands!” But they’ll be delivered by MyPants, so there’s that.

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From the state level it’s not a clear win, but looking inside the state things would be more beneficial, NY City could lose a seat and the republican part of the state could win one. Similar thing could happen in TX, FL & CA, but still I don’t see them recovering the House. I guess overall the bigger win for them would be in the local legislatures, with a big shift of seats from the cities toward rural areas.

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