The Top Ten Most Shocking Revelations From The Trump Indictment

Special counsel Jack Smith’s indictment of Trump for attempting to reverse his loss in the 2020 election reveals some new details about how it all went down.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1464896

So, correct me if I’m wrong but, if Trump gets one more indictment doesn’t that mean he can get a free Frappuccino at Starbucks?

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Let the games begin. dt, going down.

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No person in the world is in as much trouble as Donald J TRUMP.

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It will be really interesting to see how the alternate media universe created by the right wing media goes into full denial and spin mode. From their point of view, the strongest argument is probably that this is definite proof that the weaponized DOJ and the Dems are determined to take down leading GOP candidate and likely 2024 winner, Donald Trump, at all costs…The tragedy is that the heads of all the major media right wing news outlets know that what Mr. Trump is dangerous and wrong.

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Some death row inmates may disagree, but he is in a bunch of doo-doo.

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From DOJ website:

  1. 18 U.S.C. § 371—CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD THE UNITED STATES

It is sufficient for the government to prove that the defendant knew the statements were false or fraudulent when made. The government is not required to prove the statements ultimately resulted in any actual loss to the government of any property or funds, only that the defendant’s activities impeded or interfered with legitimate governmental functions

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I watched FOX network last night to see how they dealt with the latest news. Over 90% of what I saw (granted it was only 30-45 minutes worth) covered Biden and his son. I suspect that will be their mode of operation for a bit until they can create another diversion.

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Maybe I’m missing something here, but could there be any significance to the direct mention of Trump’s Chief of Staff in Paragraph 28 of the indictment?

28. On December 23, the day after the Defendant’s Chief of Staff personally observed the signature verification process at the Cobb County Civic Centre and notified the Defendant that state election officials were “conducting themselves in an exemplary fashion”…

Maybe this was already general public knowledge, but I don’t know this, so I am curious why Mark Meadows is referenced so explicitly here, as though he is a witness; that is, not “Co-conspirator 7”.

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Speculation I’ve seen is that Meadows has been quietly (VERY quietly) cooperating with the DOJ. (Recall that he (and his biographer) are also the source of that recording after Trump left the WH in which Trump is showing off that classified document about Iran.)

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Yet another indication that Fox’s goal is not to inform its audience but to protect it from news that might upset it.

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Yeah, that’s the speculation I’d read about, too. Here’s the thing: if Meadows had not been cooperating, it seems to me he would have been labelled a co-conspirator (#7).

Referencing him as Chief of Staff, and using a damning quote from him, suggests he’s on the witness list.

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Just a start
Trump’s D.C. Judge Worked For Law Firm That Employed Hunter Biden, Lobbied For Burisma | The Daily Caller

Trump Indictment Continues Pattern: Day Of, or After, Bad News for Biden (breitbart.com)

Turley: ‘Disinformation Indictment’ Is Charging Trump for Free Speech (breitbart.com)

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Justice demands all the lowlife, low bees go to jail, as well. Everyone down to the person beneath the Diet Coke Butler, needs to know they need to ask themselves whether their boss is the kind of POS who’d sell out their momma’s dentures if they had gold in them.

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Interesting strategy: argue that fake electors are necessary because there is some dispute about the election outcome (even though the “dispute” is entirely manufactured by you yourself), then argue that the existence of “alternative” electors is proof that there is a live dispute about the election results! Voila, you’ve just spun up a completely fallacious circular argument into a politically effective talking point. Apparently about 30% of the population falls for this crap.

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Thank you, Josh, for doing this. This took a lot of time and effort to put this out last night and it is extremely helpful to have.

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Has anyone else noticed that the number of pages in the indictment is “45”. Surely that is not a coincidence…

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What I read here is that a lot of lawyers seem to be burnishing their reputations in this matter. I remember Pat Philbin defending the orange dufus in the first impeachment and defending blackmailing for foreign dirt on Hunter Biden.

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All through the Trump admin there’d been these absolutely illegal things he was doing in plain sight, to the outrage of so many of us, and here, finally, he and his co-conspirators are before the US version of the Hague. I’ve been skeptical he’d ever do time, because he’s such a slippery fuck (with help from all the GOP enablers), but now I’m really enjoying what Jack Smith is doing.

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Cue the hours of J6 insurrection footage…

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