Yes, but she and her campaign staff seem to have recovered and she’s updating her speech now.
Uh…how soon we forget Reagan’s primary run for the Republican nomination for his second term in office.
Klobuchar couldn’t win her own state in the 2020 primary.
Watch for Whitmer in 2028…she going to make a more formidable run for the nomination in 2028 is my guess. If she’d run this year, she likely would have won her state’s primary over Biden…
I think Buttigieg would make one of the best Presidents in our lifetime, but I think homophobia will keep him from ever getting the nod.
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I can also see my governor, Josh Shapiro, running for president in 2028.
Yes. Her political future depends on delivering Michigan this fall, and I think she will. Whitmer is one of our two-three strongest contenders.
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Well, the other side kept its promises, I guess?
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What was your position on Obama’s chances when he was in the 2008 primaries? I ask because I didn’t think he’d make it in the general…
In fact, I was a H. Clinton supporter back then because she had a more progressive platform than Obama’s. (My position changed though on H. Clinton after it became clear that she was more of a hawk than she’d initially let on…in retrospect, that shouldn’t have been too surprising, considering that she’d voted to give GWB authority that the the neo-liberals were jonesing for.) Back then I was one of the few unsuprised people when suddenly passing universal healthcare was hard to do when the DP controlled both Houses of Congress and Obama was in the White House. All my less clued in liberal friends were tearing their hair trying to figure it all out, of course. It never occurred to them that Obama had been elected President because he was more conservative on politically relevant issues to economic interest than H. Clinton was; not a single one of them had read Obama’s actual campaign platform paper.
Never heard of him. What state is he governor of?
Pennsylvania. He was our Attorney General for two terms before he was elected governor in 2022.
He’s orates like Barack Obama, and he managed getting I-95 rebuilt within 12 days in Philadelphia after a truck explosion.
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Ah. Pennsylvania is also a very important state in the current electoral college calculus for sure! He’s going to need a higher national profile; Whitmer already has that going for her as she’s in the national forefront of the struggle between the Christo-fascist nuts and, basically, the rest of us. I guess I should start following Gov. Shapiro’s arc a bit more if you consider him a serious candidate possibility for 2028… Certainly he’s a likely a consideration for at least the VP nod in 2028?
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Right?
The answer that comes to mind is Republicans who really hate Trump. Come to think of it, we don’t get to hear much from them on the news. The media impression is every Republican loves Trump, but that is not so.
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I was onboard the Obama train from the moment he announced.
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I was not, but after a bit did see the light.
What has been missing from “The Ghose of Super Tuesday Past” was not so much 2020, but was definitely 2008. Hillary Clinton’s entire campaign strategy hinged on winning Super Tuesday - with no Plan B. How could you not have a Plan B if your Super Tuesday strategy did not come to fruition? Much as I admire Hillary, she managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory not once, but twice.
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I also wouldn’t call the election a “coin flip.” Fundamentals (economy, domestic stability, competence) favor Biden. Both are old, as you note, so is essentially a draw in that regard. Trump has done nothing to earn new supporters—indeed, many have died of age or Covid. And don’t suggest black and Hispanic support of trump is growing; it is not. This is GOP spin… Why it is kryptonite to suggest Biden is likely to overperform is odd. Dems have been over performing every damn election since 2018. Existing pollsters do not know how to poll in the age of smartphones, hence make random guesses, which they call “weighting.” I firmly believe Biden will win. And if he somehow became unable to run, I just as strongly believe ANY Dem will win. We still have to donate and GOTV, but beating trump again is not only doable but likely.
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One of the oldest and safest rules of national politics is that incumbents tend to win another term. It takes something big to change that. And the simple fact that Trump was cruising to a second term until COVID reared its ugly head is a testament to that.
The bigger concern to me is what happens after Biden wins in November. These fuckers are not going to go gentle into the good night. And it does not help that SCOTUS is in the bag for Trump.
I certainly hope that the DOJ is making the necessary contingency plans. My faith that they are is not good.
Broadly, but it’s not that old and not that safe - and not in five of the last 14 presidential elections (LBJ forced out in '68; Ford in '76, Carter in '80, HW Bush in '92 and Trump in '20) and in that time there were only five re-elections (Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, Bush the Lesser and Obama).
No he wasn’t. His approvals were never not underwater. His election was a fluke. He got clobbered in '18, the greatest Democratic Congressional victory since '74, on the heels of Watergate.
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Not just likely; mandatory! But I’m with you, I think he killed off too many of his supporters. Let’s hope we’re both right.
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Right! Let’s not indulge in “we’re doomed.” I know quite a few repubs, and they never, ever do this. They always think they will win. I’m not saying we should blindly assume victory, but we would be better to fight as a team in the finals. Who says, “Oh, no! We can never beat the [insert team]!” We fight it out, and change strategy as the ground reality changes.
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The whole thing was also confused by the Edwards run. Folks forget about Edwards very quckly it appears…he seems to have had less longevity in the DP memory than that of Gary Hart?
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