The Day Of Reckoning Over BIF And Reconciliation Is Upon Us | Talking Points Memo

Can’t they do something like the old days, give something special and big to West Virginia. Fix all the dams or fully fund the miner pensions and lower the retirement age for coal miners as part of addressing climate change. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/24/business/coal-miner-pensions-bailout.html

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And you don’t predict headlines like “With the help of the Democrats Biden’s agenda is shut down” or “Progressive tank the BBB and BIF…leaving Biden with nothing”…

I do because that’s how it’s done. There’s a reason Pelosi’s not in on this juvenile display and I’ll defer to her wisdom and experience.

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I don’t disagree at all, but like what? What kinds of jobs intended for women is the bill supposed to create? Cashiers? Baby sitters? I live in a household of 6 adults (which is a violation of the local county code but whatever). The women stock shelves in a grocery store, make appointments for driveway pavers, and answer the phone at a logistics company. The men do things with car parts but those things are delivering them and selling them. Women don’t do that even though they could. The men don’t do the appointments or answer the phone. The men make more money. It is enormously, heartbreakingly frustrating. Again, what jobs are going to be created?

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Calling @mattinpa. Calling @mattinpa.

I think we need a ruling on this.

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The Right has casually accepted violence as a legitimate component of their approach to their opposition. Neither Abbott, Patrick, Paxton or any of the Republican leadership in the Texas legislature will publicly condemn this act. Bet on it.

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Of course those will be the headlines. And, outside the beltway, roughly 3 people will actually care.

It’s a good thing to actually play hardball, shows people that two sides can play the game, rather than the Dems just rolling over every time, which gets tiresome and boring.

And hell, those would still be the headlines if the reconciliation bill passed the Senate tomorrow, the media would still find a way to paint it as a loss

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“In any case, Kyrsten Sinema still seems like the biggest problem. And they’ve got 99 problems.”

Careful, Josh. LOL

Thankfully, you’ve got me to say it for you: that bitch is one.

And you weren’t wrong. Manchin isn’t going to allow reconciliation (if he allows it at all) to contain anything that’s actually needed. He’s signaling that he wants it to be all just raw fiscal tweaking via taxes and such, because he is 100% opposed to ANY climate change or social infrastructure happening. He’s even regurgitating the Great Replacement adjacent talking points that basically amount to “we can’t do all this stuff to help people because the only way to force everyone to work for shitty wages is to keep them even poorer and in debt if they don’t accept those shitty wages”, shoehorning it into rhetoric about such things undermining and ruining traditional Murikkkan culture if we don’t “incentivize” joining the working poor indentured-servant-class by threatening everyone with abject poverty if they don’t.

And even when it comes to taxes, he’s going to want it to be nothing but throwing the middle-class a dry bone with no marrow while avoiding hurting the oligarchy…of which he is a proud member…at all costs. I expect trickle-down drivel from him throughout the process and, if anything passes at all, it will not even remotely resemble Biden’s agenda and will solely amount to a short list of minor, useless, milquetoast enactments that he thinks will play well in WV as he runs around disinforming his constituents about how wonderfully “moderate” it all is that he, and he alone, was responsible for making it happen.

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Did I mention…

Without bothering to look it up I’m going with a big nope on those.

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At this point I think Manchin’s “good faith” is the same as GOP “bipartisanship.” You accede to all my demands and do it my way.

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They might as well be married.

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The second one might be an almost quote…if you trust The Washington Post.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/in-the-loop/post/mark-twain-on-congress-idiots-criminals-dumber-than-fleas/2012/04/18/gIQA3J4nQT_blog.html

“Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.”

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Wrapping themselves in the flag is the white supremacist terrorist equivalent of screaming Allah Akbar of Islamism terrorists.

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Well you watch those 3 people vote across America to dump the Democrats and give the legislature to the GOP’ers. If this thing tanks Biden has nothing but “the chaotic evacuation” going for him as does his party.

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Beer and I have had a long running love affair. I began as many a teen has at around 14 testing my sobriety and driving country roads. That was in the early 1960’s. In 1979 it became legal to brew your own at home. Head of household could legally make 200 gallons a year. Now, I could never drink at that rate daily. But I do have friends who could help. Mrs darr is an accomplished home brewer herself. Sadly these days because of medical issues (chronic pain from old injury and osteoarthritis) necessitating certain meds , I can’t drink. But I do steal a rare sip of bourbon but never enough to effect. I also was a daily devotee of the weed. 1964 to the mid 1990’s when, like Ted Nugent said… I quipped “Lemme up, I’ve had enough”. So I stopped but I still am a strong supporter of legalization at the national level.

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What can the women do, you ask? Anything a man can do, short of sperm donor. This is the 21st century.

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Yeah, but at least the marriage was consummated this time. DT and his qrew couldn’t even meet up for the first date.

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Wanders off to check when the GQP paid a price at the ballot box for blocking, well, everything.

So… We’re not allowed to adopt any of the tactics that the other side has used to great effect and chalked up many election victories with?

C’mon. Please.

If anything, voters may start to reward a Democratic Party that has evolved enough to grow a spine and actually stand up for something, rather than flail around and frequently end up negotiating away everything that was worth it.

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Technically speaking it’s illegal to treat the flag like this

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4 U.S. Code § 8 - Respect for flag

(d)

The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker’s desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.
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In my humble opining that asswipe should have been arrested on the spot and jailed.

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The trouble with trying to verify these things is when you check them you get a million returns that all trace back to GoodReads and BrainyQuotes which are among the worst offenders in spreading this crap. It takes longer to confidently say it isn’t real. But if it’s treacly and sentimental or only mildly witty, like at greeting card, refrigerator magnet level, it isn’t Twain.

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