Texts Show That Census Supervisor In Alabama Told Counters To Use Fake Answers | Talking Points Memo

The texts from an Alabama census supervisor had an urgent tone. “THIS JUST IN …,” one of them began. It then laid out how census takers should fake data to mark households as having only one resident even if they had no idea how many people actually lived there.


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Executive Order for a new (accurate) census, President Biden?

Just sayin’…

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The government has been significantly compromised by Trump

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and then Republican will yell about the cost.

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I was a census supervisor and have posted about the whole shitshow here a few times.

There were so many things fatally wrong with this census and how it was conducted that focusing on this one aspect almost seems silly.

I never told my guys to falsify information but, for instance, they knew that if they were directed to an address that had been visited five times before, where people had been threatened by the occupant, where they did not feel safe, that it was basically OK with me if they got creative about the information in order to get the case off their docket.

The experience was just full of ridiculous Catch-22 scenarios that you had to find a way around. The idea that the information from this census is accurate and reliable is just wrong, IMHO.

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Hey Rudy! Here’s the fraud you were looking for!

The supervisor also recommended performing the steps two to three hours after trying to interview members of a household to avoid arousing suspicions from higher-ups who could track where census takers had been through their iPhones.

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The Census supervisor is an idiot. Everyone agrees people in urban areas each represent 3/5ths of a citizen. It’s what the Founders intended.

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Dothan, Alabama eh? In March 1966 I boarded a train (!) from Washington, DC to Dothan for (what should have been) a few months of Advanced Training at nearby Ft. Rucker. Was still there in the summer of 1967 when I volunteered for Viet Nam to escape the Deep South. In retrospect, one my better life choices.

Mid-60s Alabama almost exactly mirrored the current Trump era. Feels good to be leaving that behind.

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Example of what happened in my apartment building in Los Angeles. Right-wing Spanish radio told people not to participate in the Census. Census worker knocked on my door twice asking if I could help them with counting who was in our apartments. I tried with a couple neighbors they would not cooperate.

Only 5 out 49 apartments in my building cooperated. Which is precisely the undercount corrupted Republicans wanted to take a couple Congressional seats away from California.

This entire corrupted census should be thrown out and Wilbur Ross needs to be indicted for sabotaging this mess.

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Needs more ear hair.

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I don’t get something. The idea of waiting 2 or 3 hours after visiting an address before loading up false information makes no sense. Enumerators’ iPhones generated ALERTS to their supervisors (available also to their managers) if the information was not entered in close proximity to the address, or too long after the initial contact attempt, or for too short a time for a meaningful interview to take place.

What they should have done was go to the address and stand there, having a make-believe interview with an occupant and fill out the information as if the interview was happening. It would be indistinguishable from an actual interview.

This stuff makes as much sense as the rest of the census.

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I’ve said it before, but there’s no reason not to redo the census. The number of lawsuits arising from this kind of crap and the rest of Trump’s census shenanigans will be immense. It’s not just blue states and cities that will be affected, but red states and rural areas too. All of them will sue.

So, just do it over.

  • The constitution doesn’t say you can’t do it whenever you want, it just says you have to do it at least once every 10 years.
  • Redistricting can also be done whenever.
  • Same with reapportionment.

So, just redo it.

This will have advantage of being an economic stimulus as well, putting a lot of people to work. A good thing.

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what is his name ? I know trump nominated him (and his wife / sister) for something … just can’t remember which positions …Nuclear Regulatory Commission?

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When I first became a Supervisor ( not for the Census) I was told NEVER put your people in a position where they have to do something illegal or immoral in order to do their jobs. That’s exactly what Trump has done with his unrealistic order to get it all finished in an unrealistically short period of time. So of course they too short-cuts and lied. They had to in order to fulfill His Highness ridiculous order. And they will likely pay the price for Trump’s order to hurry up the Census count.

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That’s Barron’s au pair.

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These results should simply be rejected. Then start over.

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That’s actually Congress’s bailiwick.

I expect the Speaker will be behind that, though. There is absolutely no reason at this point to trust anything coming out of this shitshow.

Think of it as economic stimulus as well as doing the job more correctly.

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In other news of the irredeemably stupid…

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C’mon, man. It’s not her fault the programmer didn’t put fractions in the app.

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