Texts Show That Census Supervisor In Alabama Told Counters To Use Fake Answers | Talking Points Memo

There is statutory law that mandates a decennial period, so that would have to be amended on a one-time-only basis. (If Rehnquist and O’Connor and Co. can do it with a Supreme Court decision, so can Congress.) That same set of statutes also authorize a mid-decadal check up.

It will be 2022 before we can get things in place to do it right, anyway. Congress could just direct the Bureau to begin the mid-decade check up to begin in 2022, and to do a full-blown census instead of the smaller scale thing they usually do.

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It would be great if Alabama lost a few districts… holding 6 of the 7 seats the GOP would be more likely to loose seats than the Dems

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OK, however, in this case, if the instructions were followed then the Alabama count is short. That is a GOP central state and would serve the GOP correctly as they were telling people not to answer the census.

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If our new President has any balls, the response will be “Then the previous guy shouldn’t have deliberately fucked up his Constitutional duty.”

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Apportionment is constitutionally required to be based on the results of the decennial census. The Framers did not account for the census being conducted in bad faith, but them’s the rules. Congress can provide for any interim census that it wants, but it can’t reapportion representation based on any other census than this one.

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Do the exact same poll in 6 months, then a year and then the second year The Turnip has been gone. If the results are the same I’ll believe it. Otherwise this poll is just nonsense.

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Don’t count the people. Don’t count the votes. Got it.

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NO.

No no no.

NOT a new census, a proper completion of the current one. The one Constitutionally mandated as the basis for reapportionment needs to be cured of bad data before it can be used fairly.

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That’s not really a surprise. If you took a poll of Germans in May 1945, I assure you that 53% of self-identified Nazis would support Adolf Hitler Jr. for prime minister.

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Not sure why right wingers will disappear if the census were thrown out,

I don’t know who she is - but what great hair!

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Trump is going to be reelected in 2024, just in time to be the only president in history to be in charge of and fuck up two censuses. Yet another first in his long list of accomplishments.

I’m just happy to see the AP is farming out work to the same guy who takes all the local band photos.

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It’s on loan from Moira Rose.

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A lot of ignorant posts about the Census, just like there was a lot of ignorance among households about how the Census worked (my next door college student neighbor accused me of harassment for visiting 3x and not accepting that she was incorrectly counted at her parents’ place). The fact is that whatever the deadline, there would be a lot of households that there wouldn’t (legitimately) be info for, yet with pressure on regional managers and local supervisors to complete the cases. The catch-22 is without clear instructions from the top about what to do with those, there was more apt to be fakery, but with clear instructions locals would have been more likely to use that as an excuse to bail prematurely. The numbers may look exact, but enumeration is as much art as strict field counting. That’s something that a lot of people, including the Supreme Court majority, don’t get (N.B. statistical sampling is as much art as science/math).

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Not to say that this census was not deliberately sabotaged to promote outcomes like this, but what you are describing is a regular feature of any decennial census. Some communities, particularly undocumented immigrants, refuse to cooperate with the census. That’s why census workers are ultimately authorized to enumerate the number of residents in a household through other means, such as physical surveillance and comparison to other households that have been reliably enumerated. Just because someone refuses to play ball does not mean they’re going to go uncounted, although it obviously increases the likelihood.

And the reason California is going to lose a couple representatives is because California’s population is growing more slowly than the rest of the country. Since the 2010 census, California is at about 6.1% growth compared to 6.9% for the country as a whole. That 0.8% gap works out to 3 house seats getting reapportioned to higher-growth states like Texas and Florida.

Oh, and Congress should pass a law expanding the size of the House of Representatives to one rep for every 250,000 residents as enumerated by the decennial census. That would go a long way towards fixing gerrymandering and the electoral college, in addition to making reps much more responsive to their constituents. I’m sure they can figure out the logistics.

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Pretty dramatic shot - I like it.

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Once stopped to eat in Dotham, pretty run down place. Seemed that outside a few buildings downtown it’s all trailer parks. Place is thick with Joe Dirt type of guys.

Over and over again we get actual evidence that the Trump Administration interfered to screw over the people of the United States and his supporters actively participated in and/or ignored it for the ‘good of the nation’…even when knowing it was illegal. It’s hard to take joy in many of our citizens these days.

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I think it’s a great choice, if also truly reminiscent of the several thousand band photos that made their way to my desk in my journalism days!

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