Sondland Carried Out Secret Ukraine Dealings On Trump’s Orders, WH Official Testified

The election was rigged.

Putin won; America lost.

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I’ll second that. He’s got good lawyers.

And I’m sure the timing of all the other revelations of the evidence is not by accident on the part of Adam Schiff.

The pressure on Sondland is enormous. This may be his last chance to avoid jail. I suspect that conversation is happening between Gordon and his lawyers right now.

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Yes. Jordan and his gang of suited hooligans are idiots, but they’re “persevering” idiots. The very worst kind. Count on these people, tomorrow, to leave us gape-mouthed at their ineptitude as they unintentionally further implicate Trump.

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If you force the courts to decide if key witnesses must appear or not, it will inevitably lengthen the process. While I believe there is already ironclad evidence of impeachable offenses, I’m in no hurry to wrap up the investigations while there is still damning testimony still to be had.

But I also realize that the American public’s attention span is woefully short and the holidays are coming so I’m glad I’m not responsible for making that decision. :grin:

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To wade through the RWNJ lies in order to let the American people actually see the truth on this is vital.

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Optimistic has nothing to do with it.

The world is what it is, the Opposition is what it is.

Ergo, playing the game as it is, is how one wins, not pointlessly pining for some idealized state that never existed and never will exist because People are People and most people in all places and all times barely pay attention.

Win that game, not the Leftier than Thou Activist Game. Flip the flippable 5% of the vote, get out the less-than-always motivated and stop ignoring the Local / Regional political world where US elections are really decided.

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Well the hearings keep coming back around because Trump himself won’t leave it alone and set up this entire shadow foreign relations team in order to try to force a public airing of his pet conspiracy idea about the 2016 election. He is trying desperately to cover up the fact that the election wasn’t legitimate and in the process calling attention to the fact that it wasn’t legitimate.

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The Brits are now finally spotlighting the fact that the original Brexit referendum was rigged by Putin and that therefore the results are illegitimate. We need to make that same case for Shithead’s installation into office.

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Yes and oddly I was just reading that it has come out in Britain that Boris went over to Italy without telling anybody to meet with someone about Russian sanctions. I’ll have to see if I can find the story again.

Boris and Nigel are Putin’s men as surely as Trump is.

And not just Trump’s installation into office - an unknown of downticket GOP who are in office, too, I suspect.

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Yep, keep talking to your wait person, where you eat often enough they know you. The folks at the feed store who know your name. The mechanic who keeps you car going. Your opinions matter, and many have thanked me for keeping them up to date while they are raising kids with broken legs and working three jobs to stay afloat. All are ready to vote.

We who are older actually and have earned respect in our communities can still affect more than we often think.

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I think my wife read that to me from the Guardian this morning…

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Make no mistake about it. This was an extortion and bribery operation involving real money, moolah, dough. It was not simply about the White House visit or the military aid as the mainstream media has portrayed it. Preshitident Skanky Putin Whore’s thugs, Rudy, Igor and Lev were in Kyiv to twist arms, break legs and make sure that the demands were met and ransom was paid. Pence, Sondland and Perry were the bagmen who went to Kyiv to collect on the money. Prick Berry has already collected on two contracts that he extorted during his Kyiv visit. Follow the rest of the money that was funneled to overseas Trump Organization accounts in Cyprus.

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Here is the article from The Guardian

@tena

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One of those “Ya think!?!?” narratives that people talk around, over and under but not THROUGH

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Thanks - I was off looking for the one I saw and got a notice with your comment.

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I wonder if some of our county voting authorities here in Texas don’t have some real suspicions since they dumped ALL our old Diebold evoting machines finally and now we have ones that give us a paper trail.

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A big problem with admitting that Shithead is an illegitimate president is that our Constitution has no remedies for unraveling/reversing/correcting what was done under an illegitimate presidency which is one of the key reasons Moscow Mitch has been such a busy bee ramming through judges.

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I was looking this morning at a post (don’t know what thread) which talked about Barr, his ilk and and their connections with voting machines…

And Rod Serling music started to pop up (and me with no music machine in sight)…

Voting Machines With No Paper Trail are unacceptable

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A zealous prosecutor could go after him for soliciting an illegal campaign contribution (on Trump’s behalf). It’d be a hell of a stretch, however.

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That’s the image of me feeding my ancient cat.

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