Schiff Preempts And Rebuts Likely Team Trump Arguments

Go big or go home! :smiley:

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We won’t have to recite. We can simply stand in front of the class and mime a disabled person. Just like our most Christian president.

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Glad I read down, that was going to be my answer too.

Adam Schiff was the picture of elegance wedded to the voice of eloquence in this final closing period. More somber and less impassioned than before, but no less incisive and very, very effective. From a proud nation: “Thank you, Sir.”

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So Mike Pompeo seems to have anger management issues

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I noted on another post:

I have been frustrated for years by the namby-pamby both-sides-bullshit and head-up-their-pious-arses interviewing on NPR, with the functional effect of being played liked children by the Republicans, every fucking time. Hence my refrain, “Fix the fucking journalism schools.” But Mary Louise Kelly did it: she held her ground, and kept going – and that big-boy first-in-class coward-bastard, the Secretary of Defense, attacked her shortly afterwards, threatening that “people will hear about this”, just like “she’s going to go through a few things” directed at Marie Yovanovitch. Well, yep, we all heard about it. Pompeo is scum. Well done Mary Louise Kelly!

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Given how well Greta Thunberg plays White House plutocrats, the Democrats might take a few pointers. It’s not just about passing out finger spinners. Here she is disposing of full-of-himself Steve Mnuchin.

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I like Greta but unless China & India start reducing emissions drastically we’re hosed regardless of what actions first-world countries take. I haven’t seen her being critical of those two big players and only hear about her criticizing the west which is like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

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I just read a NYTimes op/ed to the effect that a Sanders or Warren would be worse than Trump. Talk about shameless.

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China is the biggest carbon emitter on the planet, by far. It accounts for all increases in coal emissions in 2019. That said, it also is the manufacturing hub of the planet. Much of the gains that American corporations claim about reducing carbon emissions, was in fact offshoring of carbon emissions. America’s carbon footprint increases by about 30% when you include the carbon embodied in imports. That “China smell” at Walmart is the product of coal combustion. Interestingly, it’s not final finished high-tech goods from China that are as bad in carbon terms as relatively basic products like cement, copper, steel, etc. Reducing imports or going to higher information-intensity-lower-energy-intensity imports would do a lot to rectify the problem. The Chinese themselves are fed up with coal policy, breathing coal particulates rich with quartz and mercury takes 5 years off the average Chinese lifespan. Unhealthy home use of coal in rural environments still happens, which may seem amazing to people living in advanced economies. One pressure point for Chinese and Indian policy would be to have energy pedigrees on goods from those countries. In eastern provinces in particular, non-coal electricity is available.

I would like to be positive about India, but I’m not. Manmohan Singh, with the help of his friend economist Ajit Singh, did a lot to get India on a better path. They managed at least to dampen the entitlement to an industrial revolution talk so common with the Indian elites 15 years ago. Modi set a 2022 renewable energy target that the country on on course to miss badly. If you have a plan to fix India, good luck!

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Bret Stephens.

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If a Schiff or Schiff clone rises to a national leadership position, he/she could save us for a generation or two.

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Yes, but I did not want to dignify him.

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Yes I played the whole exchange for my daughter. Or was a perfect illustration of how to stand one’s ground in the face of a bully.

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That would be limited in effect: doubtless, they’d all wind up in ‘protective custody.’ Inmates, according to a knowledgeable former acquaintance of mine, call it ‘punk city.’
Appropriate, in this case.

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Same sort of “thinking” goes into such pieces as would have gone into one claiming that Hitler wasn’t quite as bad as folks make him out to be–“Hear me out before dismissing me outright, I have a point!”. The road to Trump was paved with such “reasonable”-sounding fascist screeds.

Hey, fascism’s bad but socialism is SATAN!

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Your comment puts this trial nicely in the context of our wider legal system.
I’m watching the Cunningham campaign here in NC and noting what a long slog it is to get to the Senate in the first place.You can bet they are exquisitely aware of their own state’s polling on this matter. As of now it’s a relative toss up, [quote=“kovie, post:26, topic:174222”]
I think they win this battle but lose the senate and WH.
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Yeah I agree with this. It’s a lose lose no matter what, but they will try to change the subject as best they can–after acquittal-- and push back hard on the economy.

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You know, you make an excellent point. And Schiff actually does remind me of [the original] Robert Kennedy’s moral clarity and courage. Schiff is a huge gift and I believe this speech is one for the history books.

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Yes, it is. His district might also include Glendale.

I was involuntary exposed to Fox last night at a Mexican restaurant (and could not do anything about it). It was Laura Ingraham and the graphic that was in the background was “impeachment Exposes Democrat Lies.”

(I did the only thing I could do — quickly drank two beers.).

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