More like convoluted fucked up process that should have been ditched a long time ago in favor of 1 person one vote
Sanders To Call For Partial Recanvass Of Iowa Results, AP Still Won’t Call Race Winner Due To Errors
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Silly neoliberal shill, the DNC obviously wants a recount so they can block a REAL recount done by Our Revolution, using software that wasn’t created by David Brock on Hillary’s email server!
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“Rational Sanders supporters” aren’t my concern, if they even exist. Here’s your first clue: if you think 2016 or the current election is “rigged”, you aren’t rational. You aren’t gettable. You’re part of the problem. Anyone else doesn’t give two shits what some rando on this website says about them. I’m past caring about their fragile fee fees. Bernie is stoking conspiracy theories again. Fuck him.
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Can you show where that information about how some precincts were not counted or were double counted? I’d like to see some reputable documentation about that since that truly is the first I’ve heard about that. I’ve heard there were a lot of other type problems, but not that.
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That sentence completes the trifecta quite well.
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Some of those folks will never, ever be “non-alienated” unless B.S. wins the nomination. They did it before and they’ll do it again. They live and breathe to be alienated That’s the crux of their existence.
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Better yet a joint statement form several candidates asking fro a re-canvas so its doesn’t turn into one campaigns accusations against the Party apparatus. The stakes of the actual process are very low for any one candidate. A delegate or two. Bragging right are long gone.
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Go home, Bernie. You’re drunk.
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Bernie and his Bro’s complain about how the DNC rigged 2016 against them. Bernie got a higher percentage of delegates than he did votes. He worked the caucus system getting a higher percentage of delegates. Some might say that system was rigged for him.
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Again, you have this idea that I care about you and your fragility. Bernie Sanders is a conspiracy monger and his cultists think he’s being robbed of his coronation. Every time he’s faced with an opportunity to dial it back, he does this. It’s a deliberate and cynical tactic. The fact that it works on his cultists isn’t something I have a whit of control over. Certainly not be my remaining silent about what he’s doing or how they’re eating it up.
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Makes sense to me and let me put this diplomatically—nobody wants to come off as prickly and unnecessarily argumentative. Especially, uh, nobody. : )
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My point was not about that particular cadre but about the rational supporters who would view the comments I was referencing as problematic.
Also, it wouldn’t be a stretch to think that the speaker was just as much a member of a cult as who is being attacked.
If you step outside of the political junky scene even a bit they all look like members of a cult.
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You really don’t know anything about me and I’m not going to bother to describe my life story but I’m certainly not fragile—at least not in the sense I think you’re using the term here. I developed a tough skin on a personal level quite awhile ago out of necessity, even if it does crack occasionally.
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The B.S. campaign fervently pushed for the protection of the caucus process. They believe the voter suppressive impact of the caucus process accrues to the benefit of B.S. This despite the fact that caucuses discriminate against working people, caregivers, the disabled, the elderly, and those unwilling to be intimidated by those more demonstrative then themselves.
In fact, that last point is why the B.S. campaign is so enthusiastic about caucuses. Nevada in 2016 is but one example. Intimidation is their stock-in-trade.
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Who cares? It’s a stupid system that needs to be put to rest and if this screwup does that I say great.
And what does Bernie suggest they do get everyone back into gyms and run around trying to get people to their side, why not just play a game of Red Rover.
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Even after a partial recanvass, and even with what they typically call momentum coming out of Iowa under the best of circumstances in a normal well-functioning caucus, the delegate count isn’t going to change much. For all the worrying over who won Iowa…its now just down to bragging rights considering the point advantage might not change things much with regards to overall delegates…but we’ll see. It would be nice to have accurate numbers but at this point, I’m not sure we’ll get it.
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The narrative has already baked in, Buttigieg won Iowa going back now won’t make a difference because the narrative has already been set.
Bernie should move forward and try to claim the narrative in NH. He’s a shoe in to win NH but, he needs to make sure the narrative focuses on his win and not on Buttigieg placing #2.
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And there’s the rub. Even if Bernie wins the nomination and the DNC pats him on the shoulder and says, “Congrats, now lets go beat Trump together!” it won’t be enough. There will be some reason, some perceived slight, that his campaign will use to rage against the DNC.
And maybe it won’t matter much for Bernie, because he is trying to turn out disaffected voters, and non-partisans, and what have you… but it will be brutal for down-ballot Democrats.
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Many of these folks would find every single comment that didn’t border on adulation as somewhat problematic.
If the quadrennial Democrat happens to capture the nomination, the onslaught from Republicans against B.S. will be epic. They’ve kept their powder dry against him so far because they consider him to be their ideal and weakest opponent.
What we know about B.S. and many of his supporters is that they’re thin-skinned and inflexible.
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Larry David does a better Bernie than Bernie. Anyway, grumpy old man says what?
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