Radio silence? WTF? stop screwing around.
By the way, there is one more debate on the horizon that we’re not talking about, and that’s the VP debate. VP debates usually don’t matter that much, but this one may get more attention, given the ages of the two Presidential candidates and the likelihood of succession during the term.
Harris isn’t great at thinking on her feet, but she did well against Pence, and nobody on Trump’s current short list of VP candidates is even up to Pence’s standard. Imagine how a debate against Tim Scott, Marco Rubio, or J.D. Vance would go.
A good VP debate performance by Harris could swing a few Independent votes, maybe even get a few more Dem youth votes who are appalled at having to vote for someone as old as Biden and were pining for an alternative.
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Go back and read @birdford 's last paragraph.
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“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience." - @mattinpa
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With the future of democracy on the line? Yep.
This is my fear. All of this hysteria will just translate to less people voting. Not sure who that helps, but it’s certainly not good.
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Good to take one for the team /s. “Democrats fall in love; Republicans fall in line.” A very true adage. How about we fall in line for once? It’s sure worked well for Republicans.
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Outstanding.
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J.D. Vance would do pretty damn well, unfortunately. He’s no dummy.
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I would like to follow up on your statement.
Kitten’s reaction to watching birds for the first time.
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And they talk about Biden being out of it - this is so bad he even mixes up battery and solar!
A bit more on the Gish Gallop technique. The meme to start it says it all.
And then there was this. Nearly every story on TFG’s comments that illegal immigrants were “taking Black jobs, taking Hispanic jobs. 15-20 million of them.” focuses solely on the Democratic response.
This obviously resonated with more than that. In fact, there’s an article addressing this racist comment in Teen Vogue. (sorry, no link right now)
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Counterpunching is not wrestling. It is letting your opponent throw the first punch and then hitting him right in his weak spot. It is precise. You can’t “debate” a firehose of shit with a firehose of facts. You pick your shots and land your blows.
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At the heart of overturning Chevron v. Natural Resources Defense Council is the notion that courts, not agencies, decide what is reasonable. While it erodes agency power, it also does nothing to stop the double-whammy of right-wing efforts to compromise agencies, a familiar strategy extending from the defense department to the agriculture department since Reagan. Resource extraction’s drawbacks for the natural world are pretty obvious, but that doesn’t seem to cross Gorsuch’s mind. The Loper Bright v. Raimondo case asks what is reasonable for commercial fishing businesses, specifically herring mining. It’s a great setting because here are these working class white guys oppressed by the system trying to prevent the ongoing collapse of Atlantic herring stocks, a trend well documented for decades. This is the same type of fight as we see for groundwater extraction in California, or tree extraction in southern Alaska. And it’s a shitty calling for lawyers. There are about 800 public interest environmental law attorneys in the US, compared to over 20,000 environmental law attorneys working just for oil companies in the US. Even so, there has been a sharp increase in federal civil environmental litigation, especially since the Deepwater Horizon spill. The extractor position is always the same, if these environmental costs were not externalities, I would have never built my company on extraction of this particular natural resource. So unfair! People need gas for their cars, wood for their chairs, copper for their wires, etc. Why would Daniel Boone even have bothered if you party-poopers threatened to regulate the punch bowl? Which is why the agency scientists have to then come in and explain we only have so much of a particular resource, and this is how it needs to be managed if we want to still have access to that resource in the future. Now the agency advice, however reasonable, must yield to a judge’s view on whether an agency has “acted within its statutory authority.” Given that federal judges may choose to punt in scientifically thick controversies, what seems to be the result of Loper Bright will be either excessive judicial intervention (e.g. to help extractors) or delayed judicial action as agencies themselves have problems finding reasonable strategies, (e.g. court ruling on limiting Idaho’s wolf bait trapping rules on expanded rules that killed ESA-protected bears instead).
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I get that voters on the left get to act with collective stupidity every generation or so, but was it really only sixteen years after saving their precious vote for phony Ralph Nader that they were doing it again, this time saving their precious vote for phony Jill Stein?
And we’re only eight years away from that fucking fiasco and Christ only knows how many deeply stupid people are going to do it again, withholding their vote from the guy that has done more than any other POTUS to start dealing with climate change. We had some clown on TPM Hive just a day or so ago saying they were going to vote for the guy who claims he has a worm in his brain. Maybe it’s an affliction shared by many voters!
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Maybe, but his Achilles heel like all R’s is abortion. In the past Vance said he might favor a federal ban, and “two wrongs don’t make a right” with respect to exceptions for rape or incest. He is now apparently in line with Trump’s “leave it to the states,” which is still an opening for Harris to quote some horror stories about how well that’s going.
Anyway, I’d be surprised if Trump picks Vance for VP. He’s ambitious, a climber. Trump needs someone more willing to stay in the background and not immediately look to be running in 2028,
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Strongly agree. Biden should have attacked him on abortion and on his felony convictions right out of the gate, and he should have framed Trump right away as a liar. It’s just malpractice not to have him prepared to do that.
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It now looks like the debate will have zero effect. It may even be a small positive. Biden wasn’t the only one on stage who looked bad Thursday. Friday morning, a two-time Trump voter I know told me that “everything Trump said last night was a lie.” He said nothing about Biden, whose age-related difficulties are baked in. I think Trump’s lie about Stormy Daniels especially hurt him.
I don’t want to go down conspiracy rabbit holes, and I don’t really believe this, but could Biden’s poor debate performance have been a rope-a-dope strategy?
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I expect trump means to be around 497 years from now… from cnn …
Fact check: Sea levels are already rising faster per year than Trump claims they might rise over ‘next 497 years’
His lies are so far off the charts that the word “lie” is utterly inadequate.
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I think we’re falling in line, it’s just now you’re going to see less GOP push to get the audio of Biden’s Hur testimony because from this debate they got what they wanted and more. So hold on for that ride coming to a theater near you.
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It would be a complete farce, and therefore completely consistent with the historical moment, if the outcome of the most important election since 1860 was decided by the question of whether one of the candidates had sex with a porn star.
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