Republicans Are Forcing Democrats To Deal With Debt Limit Alone. But Will Dems Be Able To Do It?

I’m sure fear of the dark is hard-wired from the days when we had to fear animal predators who hunt at night.

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No doubt. I would sometimes get the willies fishing at night, and decided it was adaptive for little monkeys to understand that the watering hole was a place to avoid after dark.

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“My opponents have tried to suggest that this opinion is an indication of how certain justices would vote on the question of overturning Roe v. Wade. It’s settled law."

Senator Susan Collins

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“We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately.”

Delegate Benjamin Franklin

It’s more important to Collins for her to survive politically and not incur the wrath of the Trumpies than to do what she clearly knows is best for the country and its people, not to mention world. She’s selfish, she’s a hypocrite and she’s a coward.

And quite vile, when you think about it.

I.e. she’s a Republican.

Same for Murk and the handful of other remaining sane Repubs. Cowards all at this point. The party of flag-waving is the party of cowards and moral traitors. When you put your survival above that of others, you’re a coward.

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I thought you said waste time? :thinking:

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So beautifully said! I really don’t understand the gloomy “we’re losing!” types who position themselves as liberals. This country started with some really significant structural flaws (of which slavery, and what it did to the the structure of government) was the worst, but we’ve been seeing it get better every since. Especially since the 1950’s, there’s been so much improvement, and not just over racism - the status of women, the status of gays, all have improved, and yet folks see what is clearly a “last gasp” reaction and think we’re headed back to 1775.

Keep up the optimism, we all need it! :+1:

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Yes it would be mind bogglingly expensive. On the other hand, so was the war on Afghanistan. We’re a rich country. We make choices about what we spend our wealth on.

An investigation will be needed to determine root causes and risk of future accidents. Maybe a separated crossing isn’t appropriate here. On the other hand we can’t say there’s no way this accident is about deferred infrastructure spending

As me ole dad used to say: "There are two kinds of people in this world - those who say ‘Jesus, take me now!’ and those who say 'Jesus, take them now!’ :wink: "

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So, with an adult population of 258.3 million, that means we have 28 percent of the electorate who are batshit crazy. Well, guess what? That’s actually a small minority, and they’ve always been with us. What’s changed is the media has given them multiple bullhorns and echos their every mumble. They are still a minority, and if we don’t panic and fall onto our fainting couches, we’ll put them back in their boxen.

Things to do now:

  • Cancel your cable subscription (if you have one) and tell them it’s because you won’t fund Fox News.
  • Make sure your voting registration is up to date
  • Do something, anything, to get somebody off the couch. If you have kids eligible to vote, get them to register, if you have relatives living overseas, get them to register, if you have neighbors who sit on the fence, get them to stand up…
  • Add something, anything, to this list…

Ball’s in our court and it’s our serve…

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"In 2020, the U.S. Census Bureau counted 331.4 million people living in the United States; more than three-quarters (77.9%) or 258.3 million were adults, 18 years or older — a 10.1% increase from 234.6 million in 2010. "

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https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/08/united-states-adult-population-grew-faster-than-nations-total-population-from-2010-to-2020.html

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Yeah, I’ve tried but the conversations always just get heated, so I have to go with the flow…

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I call her Westboro Baptist Greene.

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Ya hafta understand that my cat is not normal. He’s a feral boy and he never learned normal cat stuff.

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I sincerely hope the Dems understand that the celestial hall monitors will not save them and that neither the media nor the public will apportion the blame correctly if they let the GOP + Manchin et al ratfuck them on this.

The only logic behind playing this stupid fucking game that I can see is forcing Manchin and Sinema’s hands on the filibuster. Absent that, they better fucking mint the coin.

Meh. 10 steps forward, woefully inadequate. 1 step back, it’s all over folks, we’re done.

The pessimist’s credo. They always see clouds, not silver linings let alone clear skies. It’s a defense mechanism, sure, but also a passive-aggressive way of controlling others. People who feel powerless seek to control and undermine those who do not to avoid having to face their own terrifying demons. It’s gutless and vile but such is much of human behavior.

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I feel icky before I even look up the word… lol

I hope your numbers are comforting to you because they’re not. At all.

Germany was hijacked by a tiny minority of psychopaths who then terrorized everyone else into following along, Or at least getting the fuck out of the way and keeping their mouths shut. Now, of course there are tremendous sociological and cultural reasons why that was sufficient and won’t work here. But what it proves is that a very dedicated minority can overturn everything because their goal is simple - create chaos. That’s easy. Once chaos has been established, lots of people just want things to go back to “normal” and people aren’t thinking rationally at that point.

So, don’t be surprised if the people who make the best case for calming the chaos and restoring things “as they were” are the same assholes who created the chaos in the first place. There’s a simple reason why fascists swear by this playbook. It works.

I’ve got an easier one than that. A new clean debt ceiling bill introduced by Senate President Kamala Harris and filed under a separate reconciliation, to set the debt ceiling at the value of all US Assets which is equal to about $250T. It would end the Kabuki dance for a long time and educate the US population about why the whole debt ceiling notion is ridiculous. To wit, if the US were a corporation, it would have a debt-to-equity ratio of about 12% which any Fortune 500 company would die for.

If the parliamentarian objects, Senate President Harris can just dismiss her. Shove the whole thing right up McConnell’s ass and dare him to complain about it.

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The Army didn’t send me to war, but I recall night maneuvers in a deep forest. I thought If I ever had to do this for real, then I wanted to get my ears tuned to distinguish between manmade sounds vs natural sounds. I was probably naive, but I to tried to take it seriously – just in case. The forest has some nice sounds at night.
The sound of a rifle bolt cuts through the night like a hot knife through butter.

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Let’s hope you guys are right. The WaPost is well into its “Biden fading” routine.

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Even folks like me who know t that history tend to forget it. I have to remind myself.
Radical political and/or social change can occur quick as a cat can wink her eye.
Things can move at a glacial pace, then WHAM, the French Revolution or the rise of Hitler.

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