Pence Aide Provided House Intel With New Impeachment Info. Then VP’s Office Classified It

Feeling putty-brained this morning myself, I’m wondering if that’s not overthinking it. Trump was yammering about light bulbs and toilets because that’s the kind of idiotic nonsense he’s been yammering his whole idiot life. He’s simply gotten relaxed and uninhibited enough at this point to just yammer about anything in front of the world press.

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Trump can’t resign unless he gets a full pardon for his ‘Crime Wave.’

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I have to admit I knew next to nothing about him before all of this began, but am deeply impressed in his intelligence, demeanor, and courage.

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The Speaker of the House does not have to be elected to the House. So in my fantasy, the moment the Senate convicts, Speaker Pelosi resigns and quickly makes Hillary Clinton the Speaker before the inauguration. The Speaker doesn’t want to be President anyway.

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Quoting fgs Speaker of the House does not have to be elected to the House. So in my fantasy, the moment the Senate convicts, Speaker Pelosi resigns and quickly makes Hillary Clinton the Speaker before the inauguration. The Speaker doesn’t want to be President anyway.emphasized text**

Karma anyone!

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Now he’s a literal potty-mouth.

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Yep…it’s just a big ol’ HOAX isn’t it America?

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More like a Ponzi scheme.

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But of course he couldn’t have schemed to do it on his own without a pre-existing consensus. It would have blown up in his face. That’s the trap he’s in. They’re scared to do the most rationally beneficial thing for the party.

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Perhaps. But the “puppets” need to be capable of something beyond drooling.

Besides, I look at the relationship between the wealthy donors and the GOP politicians as “mutualism”. I don’t think it’s stupidity as much as a willingness to enter into an unethical, perhaps immoral relationship for mutual benefit. The donors want power and influence, The GOP members seek power and money. And, once entered into this relationship, one partner cannot survive without the other as the relationship becomes “locked in”.

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Really. Ask Walter Neff. He’d trolley agree.

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Actually, it is one of the first refuges.

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One of the great lessons of Watergate: “It’s not the crime; it’s the cover up.”

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I don’t see how this isn’t just an obvious obstruction of justice.

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under the current rules, the Senate itself decides what evidence is admissible. So if the Senate wants to do so, it can limit the evidence to that which is part of the House’s evidentiary record – thereby making the calling of new witnesses (like Bolton, Mulvaney, etc) imposssible. This was not done in the Clinton impeachment, because fact witnesses were never called by the House, which relied on the Starr report. There were no live witnesses at the Senate trial – although the House managers did depose three people, including Lewinski, and presented video-taped excerpts of that testimony as part of its case, in addition to entering into evidence the three depostition transcripts in their entirely.

In other words, the Clinton precedent actually supports the idea that the House Dems should be allowed to subpoena Mulvaney, Bolton, etc at least for depositions that could be used at trial. But it also suggests that its permissable to prevent them from testifying publicly in the Senate.

Additionally, in the clinton trial, each side was only given 24 hours to present their case, which would significantly impact the number of witnesses the House could call.

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As Josh has observed, what this is really admitting is that cover-ups often work, so that the crime cannot be easily or completely investigated. So one is left with only having the cover-up to prosecute.

If there was no cover-up the crime would have been worse.

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That’s Bulbous Billy Barr to you.

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What is this “legitimate” of which you speak?

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Lock him up.

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Assuming the Senate wants to limit the evidence (as I’m sure MM would want to), I think a majority could override it. If it doesn’t take a supermajority, then we’d have a chance. Oh, and if they want to call new witnesses - like Hunter Biden - would they have to allow that courtesy to Dems?