A second whistleblower reportedly may file a complaint containing even more details of President Donald Trump’s attempt to strong-arm the Ukrainian president into investigating his 2020 rival Joe Biden.
Now the Republicans may need to modify their “hearsay” horseshit as they continue to put party over country.
Edited with much thanks to @fasolt
At which point the sound of the dominoes all falling down would be audible even in the Senate.
Of course there will be more whistleblowers. Everyone who talked to the original one and informed him of key details needs their own individual protection, there is no blanket protection for the event.
The irony here is their own disrespect of the IC has actually created a “deep state”. Please proceed.
Dems obviously have a massively strong hard evidence-based legal case for impeachment, on multiple counts–more so if you include other crimes like those having to do with Russia/Mueller, family separation and emoluments, but even just on this one scandal.
The real question at this point is whether they can make the political case for it as well, to the point where a significant majority of Americans support impeachment and even removal, including enough Repubs to make Trump & Repub pols very nervous.
That’s the only way to make removal even remotely possible. If the public’s not overwhelmingly for it, Repubs have no reason to convict. If the public is for it, Repubs will have a really hard choice to make, and that’s precisely where Dems want them to be next year.
Impeachment is NOT merely about doing the right thing, or even removal. Impeachment is also, and I’d argue especially, about doing serious and lasting political damage to Trump and the GOP.
And they all fall down.
If he was trying to encourage the Dems to impeach him he has committed a blunder. It seems the rats are jumping ship all over the place. He might be the last person in the White House. Somebody needs to remind Trump to turn off the lights before he leaves.
With any luck, it might continue in the Senate.
Looking at you, Lindz. And you, Mitch.
I was talking to my Rep. at a casual meet and greet this week and that is the distinction he drew. In his view the legal case is strong enough that he comes down on the side of impeachment and let the political chips fall where they may.
There is always the psychological point where people begin making calculations about their own best interests as opposed to the groupthink to which they have been conditioned. OTOH, we have seen a lot of alleged “turning points” in this utter national disgrace of the last three years.
We may be allowed to hope, however, per Churchill, that if it is not the end, or even the beginning of the end, we might be seeing the end of the beginning.
Excellent. And thank you for doing that.
The only way that ordinary Republicans will ever respect and appreciate the gravity of Trump’s crimes is for Trump and all involved to go to jail, just like Haldeman, Erlichman Mitchell and Dean. And make no mistake about it, Trump himself must go to jail or the Russians and their Republican conspirators, and others, will be at it again every election from now into the future.
We may also be allowed to hope, as attributed to Churchill, that “Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing…after they have exhausted all other possibilities.”
Someone thought it would be a good idea to trash members of the CIA and FBI as traitors and spies and to have Barr and the Justice Department sic foreign government spies on them. Somehow I have a feeling that plan is not going to work out well for Trump.
Is it greedy of me to want a whistleblower with knowledge of the calls with Putin and MBS?
When the Senate is sociopathic it could be an American tragedy.
The fact that the GOP talking points are about whether the Whistleblower got first, second or thirty-third hand information speaks to the weakness of their case. The transcript of the call proves the whistleblower was correct. Further, Trump released it voluntarily, so he can’t claim it was evidence obtained by a tainted investigation.
Did they (aides) ever figure out how to work the light switches? I’m pretty sure Trump doesn’t.
We will see. I’ll give thanks if he or she does, but a tease aint doing it for me.
Nah, Putin now controls them from Moscow, just like everything else in the White House…