NY Judge Holds Trump In Contempt For Attacking Witnesses, Threatens Jail - TPM – Talking Points Memo

He’s not getting anything revoked. He’s not been adjudicated guilty of any crime. Glenn Kirschner is completely wrong to insert this notion into the discourse. NY Judiciary Law § 751 is not a crime, much less a Class E felony.

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Thank you for the clarification.

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Hey, I’d love to see him jailed for a few days too. However, it has been pointed out here that the normal process with a gag order is several sanctions in the form of fines, before the hammer drops for jail time. This can help avoid successful appeals based on violation of due process or a biased judge.

A lot of what we’re going to see in this and other Trump trials is going to look frustrating at first, but it’s designed to limit his appeals if he’s convicted.

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Being found having committed “criminal contempt” is not a “crime”…

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Curious as to why we are not getting a Live Blog from Josh today?

We didn’t get one on Friday either, which was a serious let-down as I thought the live blogging from Josh Kovensky was great (as was Kate’s live blogging from the SCOUTS oral arguments earlier in the week).

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I’d like to see how SCOTUS could do that. There’s no mention of immunity in the Constitutions so the “strict constructionist” shtick won’t work. They’d have to invent it but I wouldn’t put that past them. Perhaps an attorney in here could help me out. SCOTUS is hearing this on appeal after a lower court fond no such immunity existed. As I understand it an appeal does not bring new arguments into play it just appeals what the appellant thinks was a wrong by the lower Court. So what’s with all the crap about other presidents past and future? Set aside that no other President asked for immunity or needed it. What’s with all the hypotheticals and arguments based in the needs of other Presidents when the lower Court made no decision on that crap?

“your in it too so side with me” is an old scam. No one is fooled by it. SCOTUS isn’t for sure. They just want to help Trump.

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It’s not a crime. It’s “criminal contempt,” but it’s not a crime. It’s not a Class E felony. trump would have a Sixth Amendment right to a jury trial if it were an actual crime. He does not have a Sixth Amendment right to a jury trial because it’s not an actual crime.

Nor will he lose his right to vote.

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If Trump is jailed, does it delay the trial?
Is that the plan?

I think he’ll use his Trolls for the first day while issuing the obligatory ‘doesn’t even recognize this as the America he knows and loves’–won’t blow a gasket until Thursday.

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Nor will he shut his fucking mouth.
Nor will anything of real consequence be done to him.

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Never said he would, nor have I heard anyone claim that he would.

If the judge is seriously considering the threat of “Jail” for any amount of time … minutes, hours, days… let’s hope he has very comprehensively evaluated & verified the options … and just to be way ahead - made sure there are 4-5 facility options - all either appropriate security, appropriately spartan (but not cartoonish) … most emphatically serious … make sure he gets handled by large humorless fierce guards.
Put him in a jump suit? Probably not…
But make the experience one where the total lack of control terrifies him to his core… and further scares him about what might happen if he goes into a cell a second time … like maybe “overnight” … ( or just the threat of such)

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No, he will get delivered to the courtroom every morning and taken away after the trial day is over if the judge orders any incarceration during the trial.

I kind of like the suggestion that the could sentence him to serve some time but suspend imposition of the sentence until after the trial is over. Basically, hold the Sword of Damocles over his head for the rest of the case.

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But if it were an actual felony crime, he would lose his right to vote in Florida. That, however, is not going to happen because it’s not a crime.

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From the DOJ:

Or the number of seconds until he has contacted Eric. “You remember when you said that Russians invest in a lot of our properties, can you do me a favor for the $9 thousand dollars?”.

Lock him up!
Lock him up!
(ad infinitum)

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Wholly inapplicable to the NY Judiciary Law.

It doesn’t have to be a felony according to Judge Chutkan. It van be a Federal, State or Local crime. Chutkan from the bench:

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But it’s not a crime. It’s just contempt.

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