No, The Jan. 6 Indictment Of Trump Is Not A First Amendment Case

He’s my new one, found by another Hiver. He’s less than a year old and playful, curious and a total love bug. I’m smitten.

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The First Amendment stuff isn’t even an argument you can make to the jury. Sure, you can argue to them that it was all just a bunch of talk – and that sometimes works – but the moment any of the co-conspirators takes a tangible step towards accomplishing the goal of the conspiracy, it’s a crime.

First Amendment issues get decided by the court as a matter of law, not by the jury as a question of fact.

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The free speech memo went out as soon as the indictments came out.

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@txlawyer, @sniffit, @ncsteve

So… here’s my problem… the totally rigged and unfair powerball lottery keeps avoiding the perfectly good numbers on my tickets, and giving the yuuge jackpots to other, far less deserving, people in other states. Mathematical analysis demonstrates that the chances of anyone else winning the lottery are infinitesimally small, like 275 million to one. Obviously rigged. But, I still need a Beneteau 54.

The obvious solution, then, is to rob a couple of banks to obtain the required cash, because obviously. If I can get one or more of you to talk with me about this plan, then, subsequently, if anything goes wrong, I can claim advice of counsel, and free speech, right?

And, also, can you help me file several lawsuits against the rigged lottery? Many people are saying it’s totally rigged and unfair.

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TIFG’s supporters view Sicknick as a traitor. They really would rather forget that their ilk killed a police officer (whether directly or indirectly) while insisting that the police be supported no matter what.

Cult behavior. Behave as we insist or pay the price.

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The free speech memo went out a while before the indictments came out.

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The 1st Amendment, indeed.

The NYT drives me around the corner. Our relationship - the grey lady and I, we’ve had more break-ups than Taylor and Burton. Can’t live with her, can’t live without her.

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Well, sure, because TIFG’s legal counsel (what there is of it) knew well in advance what the content of the indictment included. So they let their staff writers prepare that well in advance of the unsealing.

No grass grew under their feet in the interim.

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Can’t wait for the movie

Fox Indictment Coverage Is A Horror Movie: Watch The Trailer

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Not only is the lottery rigged, it is also an unfair tax on the innumerate.

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When we were first married, my mom gave us an orange Maine Coon tabby and that fur baby was a treat to have. He tolerated two human babies, along with his two human adults. Wherever we lived in Long Beach, he made sure to find the easy marks to make sure he got his treats or goodies. I’m surprised no one permanently took him home with them.

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The headline might read, “It’s the “schlong and the short of it.”

  • Rolling Stone: Rudy Giuliani in Vile New Audio Transcripts: ‘Jewish Men Have Small Cocks’
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In addition to the NYT, a Washington Post article (below) basically makes the case that the whole trial hinges on what Trump “really” believed in his heart.

This is a ridiculous argument. Nobody knows what ANY other person “really” believes. All we have to go by is their actions, and the results of their actions. To the extent intent matters in jurisprudence, it’s what a REASONABLE person would believe under the circumstances.

The mainstream media is just shilling for Trump when they write pieces like that.

It’s like saying somebody “meant well.” Hell, Stalin meant well. Hitler meant well. At least by their own moral compass.

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Trump: Will you kill my wife for me?

Pence: No.

Trump defenders: Why are you prosecuting Trump?!? Nothing happened. This is simply a matter of free speech.

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It’s almost like DeSantis want Florida to be the place where diversity goes to die. :thinking:

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“Taylor and Burton”

Wait what!?! Taylor Swift and Tim Burton are a thing!?!

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Rudy Rudy Rudy
Rudy Giuliani: Jewish Men Have ‘Small’ and ‘Unused’ Genitalia, Transcripts Reveal - U.S. News - Haaretz.com

Rudy Giuliani’s accuser reveals tapes detailing alleged sexually vulgar remarks (theworldnews.net)

In the latest filing filed on Tuesday, Ms Dunphy’s attorneys allege Mr Giuliani told her in March 2019: “Come here, big tts. Your tts belong to me. Give them to me. I want to claim my t*ts.”

“These breasts belong to me. Nobody else can get near these, okay? I don’t care if they’re flirting or they give you business cards. These are mine, you got it?” he allegedly added.

In another transcript, Mr Giuliani allegedly called her “my b****” and “my fing s”, adding: “I want to own you.”

Elsewhere, he allegedly calls Ms Dunphy “my little girl” and “my daughter”.

The transcripts also allegedly confirm anti-semitic remarks attributed to Mr Giuliani when the lawsuit was filed in May.

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It’s almost like DeSantis wants the United States to be the place where diversity goes to die. :thinking:

FIFY

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Another reason to be glad DC is the venue. I think Cannon could do massive damage with bad instructions. What recourse does prosecution or plaintiff have if the judge delivers bad instructions? I know the plaintiff could appeal, but wouldn’t the prosecution just be out of luck?

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