Navy To Punish Captain Who Raised Alarm About Coronavirus On Ship

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#91

It surprises me that people don’t understand what going up the chain of command entails. If you have an issue and your immediate superior is unable to effectively deal with it, then you have the right to go above that person’s head.

If the next immediate superior is unable to deal with the situation, then you have the right to go above that person’s head, and so on all the way up the chain of command.

I don’t know what steps Captain Crozier took, but he obviously felt that this was insufficient and that he was dealing with an emergency situation and didn’t have time to go through the normal channels.

From the Navy’s perspective, he went outside standard operating procedures. That is all they need to justify firing him.

However in the military, they are taught that it is illegal to obey an illegal order. If obeying an order or in this case “standard operating procedures” means injury or death to a service member then one has an obligation to disregard such order.

Captain Crozier did the right thing.

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#92

Forget it. The Senate is fully occupied with the Investigation of Hunter Biden. Priorities, man!

#93

Was that a troll you responded to?

#94

The nuclear subs have to be a huge concern. One infected sailor would be all it takes.

Look at that sendoff for Crozier today … promoted by stripes, no less.

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#95

The respect and admiration of the people you serve with. All the rest is background noise.

#96

Look at the sterling example of our military academies such as Pompao, first in class, last in integrity. The standard has fallen so low they should be disbanded. How many more cheating scandals in the ranks need to happen before this disgraced and discredited training centers reforms. It won’t come from within.

#97

I’m all set for the firing squads we’re gonna need to take care of the anti-American traitors in the White House.

#98

For the 2nd time in 2 days I exchanged emails with a lifelong friend who served as a Regular Navy officer. He’ s in no ways shocked at this punishment for standing up for his people. Does nothing for one’s career to do so.

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#99

We can be sure he has been one fine officer, going to bat for his sailors.

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#100

He got a good sendoff

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#101

“… principles of good order and discipline…”

Mr. Secretary: Please articulate which principle this behavior violated.
We can be sure Donnie told you to destroy this man as a warning to others in the military.

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#102

The Navy Cross can only be won in actual combat. It is the Navy’s highest decoration that can only be won in combat. Unlike in other services, the Medal of Honor can be won in line of profession in the Navy. Perhaps Capt Crozier deserves a Medal of Honor instead.

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#103

The captain of a ship should (and this has been known to actually happen in the past) have his career ended for not standing up for the safety of the people under his command.

#104

Sadly for many generals / admirals - lower ranking individuals are just “units of productivity”
Walking, talking pieces of ammunition.

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#105

Our troops were cannon fodder in WW2. The memoirs of men who survived 2 yrs in the infantry across France and into Germany or in the Pacific confirm this.

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#106

True, but where in WWII were the infantry not cannon fodder? The Soviets lost nearly twice as many troops in Stalingrad alone, compared to the entire WWII losses of the combined U.S. Armed Forces. The Western Allies took greater care that our troops not be cannon fodder, when compared to the Eastern Front. Before 1945, 90% of all German casualties were on the Eastern Front.

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#107

The fact that it was a leak, maybe not of his doing, is what would really suck.

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#108

You are correct, but it’s kind of beside the point. Our military is hypocritical about it.
The Russkies and Germans didn’t pretend that they gave a shit about casualties.
In WW1, a “war of attrition” was a strategy: Try to kill more of them than they of us.

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#109

In honor of our 43rd President, be sure to write “stratergy,” along with “misunderestimate” and “nucular.” With respect to the Soviets and Germans, and us, for that matter, that in part depended on the general.

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#110

Apparently, the Acting SecNav (there is no one permanent at the top in this maladministration) fired the captain for putting too many ccs on his appeal to evacuate sailors. One of the ccs must have leaked it. So he’s losing his post, and his career, because his good judgment got out.

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