NASCAR Bans Confederate Flags At Its Events And Properties | Talking Points Memo

Sponsorship is the be-all and end-all of NASCAR, and almost all auto racing series for that matter. Nothing exists without the sponsor money. These are mainstream companies that need to avoid controversy. They can see which way the wind is blowing.

@mondfledermaus I know it’s not the real point of the Faux News watchers’ outrage, but since they mentioned it… there’s already an E-car series, and F1 cars are effectively hybrids. It will hit the various other series soon.

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(transfers cigarette from Tangerine Dreamed mouth to leathery hand holding beer and keys)

" I got this Confederate flag tattooed on my left breast on Mother’s Day, and if my tube top is too low for you Mr. Government Overreach, then you can report me. Go on, I dare ya!"

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I dunno, maybe…stop the race?

I think this is critical and have been advocating making it a core part of our response for a while. If enough of us never watch an episode of Fox & Friends, but boycott every advertiser on their show, the advertisers will take note and respond accordingly. I would certainly join in a “NASCAR Advertisers Boycott” even though I’ve never watched a single race and I’m convinced that at this point there are a lot more people like me than there are people who would do the opposite.

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Sports teams and their stadium security in baseball, basketball and football are very good at finding and removing signs, banners, etc. that they don’t want to be seen on TV. I’ve seen it dozens and dozens of times in person over the years. I’m sure it’ll be tough, especially early on when they deal with people sneaking them in to be trolls, pretending they’re protesting for free speech. But if NASCAR is serious at all about this, they have no excuse not to catch all of them as soon as they come out.

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I will believe it when they actually confiscate the flags and ban repeat offenders from the tracks.

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Half of these pseudo racing fans can’t drive a stick shift - and 3/4 of them hardly know what they are cheering for … the race cars have virtually no real engineering connection to the manufacturer that is ostensibly being represented by the race car (the race cars are frames/ chassis/suspension/engine that are built to essentially a uniform set of specifications and have an almost generic cartoon-like fiberglass bodies) - yet many of the fans would argue brand loyalty and eagerly engage in a fist fight to "defend the honor " of a Ford vs a Chevy
They whined and gagged when Toyota joined the fun … but their whining was over quickly & they went back to rooting for … what ever …
Toyota currently ranks 7th all time, with 115 victories
and a “Toyota Camry” has won the championship 3 times -2016, 2017, 2019

So if the Good Old Boys can accept the reality that Toyota owns 3 of the past four championships
…well then they will accept being told that the confederate flag has to stay out .

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Yep.

We’ll see just how serious they are.

I suspect they will allow the flags as long as they don’t show up on the cameras.

5 years ago this happened:

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As long as they don’t ban pictures of Daisy Duke…

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There will be spectator flags, fer sure. No doubt about it.

NASCAR will look the other way since they will not be official race flags, and will not enforce spectator flags. Bit of a win-win for them.

A European driver wants described NASCAR as “a bunch of farmers driving around in a field”. I’m a fan but still funny.

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I gotta say, I didn’t see this coming. I thought NASCAR would hold on until the bitter end. Good for them.

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No. HBOMax removed it from their streaming service.
A really dumb move, because it’s not only fictional, it’s a great piece of film-making, with multiple Academy Awards in several categories.

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Kee-rist, so I have to watch cars roll around a track now?

I’m out. :slight_smile:

This decision feels BIG. Let’s hope it is and that NASCAR has the backbone to stick with it.

Yes, and only a little bit racist. Lost cause, marauding Yankees and all that.

“Birth of the Nation” is a significant movie, but it deserves to sit in the bowels of some library only to be viewed by scholars.

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Perhaps boycott all Fux News advertisers?

False comparison.

GWTW is a love story that happens to have the Civil War as a part of it.
It isn’t about the war, nor particularly about slavery.

It’s about 4 main characters, and their relationships to one another and their society.
It’s also far superior to the book, which is a compelling love story very badly written.

The Birth of a Nation is a seminal work in the creation of the language of film, based on a truly awful book that celebrates racism and the KKK as great things.
While it should be studied—for its impact on film-making and for its overt racism—it’s not entertainment in the way that GWTW is.

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