Gonna be hilarious when Lynne Cheney votes to protect MTG’s committee seats.
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The Georgia dungmoggy needs to spend some time in durance vile for her role in the insurrection.
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But remember, if you commit an actual felony, you can be arrested on your way to/from the floor. How is she getting her guns onto capitol grounds?
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Hoyer better frame this precisely & clearly
… - no ambiguity
… - and no wiggle room for sanctimonious Republicans
to weasel around the critical issues with some smarmy blather - pretentiously wailing -
“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it,”
It has to be a clear cut statement declaring the total unacceptability of the aggressive and indecent verbal & published assaults on civilized society that she is making.
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I’m not so sure it’s a silver lining.
The GOP started falling apart in the '90s, when it became clear that their central beliefs – extreme laissez faire – were completely wrong. As old parts fell off, the Koch machine supplied replacements.
These days the GOP is a zombie. Any damage to the body will simply grow back in a more dangerous form, because the force that keeps it alive is no longer inside the party: it is the Billionaire’s Caucus. If every elected Republican killed themselves today out of shame, the next crop would not be more moderate.
That’s why we – civilized society – must take on and destroy the billionaires. They are the true threat, and they are completely unfazed by our victories in the political realm.
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First, never just accept something someone says as the final word.
It’s true that there’s a provision in the Constitution that you need a 2/3rds vote to “expel” a member. But the 14th Amendment supersedes that with respect to “insurrection or rebellion”. It further goes on to say that it requires a 2/3rds vote to remove the impediment. It doesn’t say that it requires a 2/3rds vote to enforce.
So it is fair to say there is an ambiguity as to how to enforce the 14th Amendment Section 3 against any individual. The only advance requirement is that the person took the oath of office to defend the Constitution, which includes all military personnel. So it’s broad.
Because of that ambiguity, the House can treat it very much the same as removing a member as if they lied about their age and did not fulfill the Constitution’s requirement to be 25 years old. It’s not the Congress removing the member, it’s the Constitution. Basically, this is the argument Trump and many others made to try to disqualify Obama from the presidency, even post-inauguration, for not being born in the US. (Their theory was faulty anyway since his mother was an American citizen so it wouldn’t matter where he was born.)
I assume that anyone excluded from their post due to 14th Amendment Section 3 could file suit and argue that they are being denied the right to run for office or take office because the resolution of Congress violated their Constitutional rights. They may get somewhere, but since the Constitution offers a remedy, it’s not an easy case to win and may not even matter.
The moral of the story is not to engage in insurrection or anything reasonably close to it if you want to hold office. The real concern is that the Rs, once they are back in charge, would use that same provision to exact revenge or increase their power. But I’d argue they are going to do that now anyway just because people like us are suggesting it in the service of righteousness. That’s how they roll.
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Meanwhile, as the clock ticks down on McCarthy’s time to act, if he’s going to
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What is needed is control, in a Mixed Society: University-Education/Business-Private Sector/Government.
All three.
The percentages would depend on societal parameters, like type of economy, demography and type of representative government.
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I never played the game or collected the cards, but I miss the days when MTG was short for Magic: The Gathering.
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Boom. After her constituents spend two years with a Rep who does nothing to help their district, only the craziest would vote to send her back to DC.
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McCarthy’s pair is hanging at Mar-a-Lago.
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OT but I watched Robocop last night and was astounded at its prescience. These really stood out:
- After losing the election, the Mayor of Detroit takes over City Hall with force and threatens to kill council members unless the election is overturned and he gets his job back.
- A space laser starts a forest fire in California.
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From the article
"Greene, sending out yet another fundraising blast, displayed no such reticence.
“Today’s the day I could be removed from committees, or worse, expelled from Congress,” she wrote, asking for “emergency donations” in bold, colorful font. “I need you to call your Representative and urge them to #StandWithMTG! Tell them not to cave to the radical socialists in Congress!”
It may help Greene personally, someone needs to explain how money will help Greene with her fight to keep her committee assignments instead of contrition. Her pleas for money sound an awful lot like those of many Evangelical ministers:
I love you,
God loves you,
Send money.
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And Bobert.
And Gohmert.
And Jordan.
And Gaetz.
And the rest of the GQP.
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Yeah, but that was a Unitarian Space Laser…
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That is the fundamental problem, Greene may be the open wound but the tumor that needs to be cut out is all those 140 who voted in favor of Trump stealing the election or otherwise voiding the votes of people of color.
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This resolution might get 5 or 6 GOP votes.
Dems are doing the right thing by raising the political costs to the GOP of pandering to white nationalists.
A national campaign that paints the Dems as the party of prosperity and security that delivered on its promises and the GOP as the Party of Q and white nationalism can win the 22 midterms the next 3 election cycles.
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Great assessment!
If McCarthy is afraid to stand up to Greene, he might as well suggest that she become minority leader. She’s already leading him around by the nose and asking hm how he likes it. She should be expelled. Period.
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That’s not his nose.
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