How Will DOJ Backtrack Its Own Claims About Census Deadline? | Talking Points Memo

President Trump’s insistence that a citizenship question be added to the census is putting his Justice Department at odds with itself after it told federal courts at least 15 times that the census forms needed to be finalized by the end of June.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1233842
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President Trump’s insistence that a citizenship question be added to the census is putting his Justice Department at odds with itself after it told federal courts at least 15 times that the census forms needed to be finalized by the end of June.

If he keeps it up he will be able to get into the Guinness Book of World Records

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Believe he already is there, greatest number of lies by a President during his 1st year, then repeated his 2nd year, and is working very hard to break the record once again for his 3rd year.

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So what’s the big deal? Nobody ever believed them in the first place, did they?

Besides, can’t Trump just declare the Census a national emergency and shift funds from something unimportant, like, say, food and shelter for detained asylum-seekers? Oh, wait … the funds for that have already been used for something else. Still, I’m sure Trump could scrape together enough dosh so that the census questionnaires could be printed the day before they had to be sent out if need be.

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Lawyers don’t need credibility in court. Their cases need no credibility. The DOJ lawyers will circle back on their rationale until they come up with an acceptable answer.

This shit administration will not end soon enough.

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Out to the job,have to TRY keep up on the RADIO for this till quiting time.

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Dems. Please message on this and gerrymandering and voter suppression with “Nobody likes the Republicans. Their policies stink. So, they have to cheat to win.”

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If Trump refuses to have a census, will there be consequences for him?

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I’ve been telling people for months that the winning Democratic message will include that picture of the President with toilet paper on his shoe.

That’s the ONLY picture of the President the winning campaign should use – alongside every criticism of every policy.

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That whore Roberts (seriously, he’s exactly comparable to a royal mistress and makes his living in exactly the same way) is responsible for this. And yet he gets the best tables at restaurants and goes to parties in the Hamptons.

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This creates a curious Constitutional question: what exactly do the courts DO, when the Chief Executive refuses to allow the Executive Branch to, er, execute?

The Constitution says: “… actual enumeration shall be made within three years and the first meeting of the Congress of the United States of America, and within every subsequent term of ten years in such manner as they shall by law direct.”

SCOTUS has told Trump he can’t have the citizenship question (natter gromish). Trump says he will, so! have his citizenship question.

What exactly happens if SCOTUS gets another appeal and refuses to allow the question – and Trump refuses to proceed without it?

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You eventually come to grips with the fact you’re a serf ruled by people with money.
The view from the outside of the castle ain’t so great
Off With Their Heads!

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More hand-wringing?

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Couch Fainting , Rending of Fabric , Furrowed brows, Strongly worded letters all topped with a viscious TSK TSK

To mention a few

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Words have no meaning.

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Yep. Go right after his “strength.”

I suppose…

In general, the Executive accepts SCOTUS authority to say you can’t do that, so it goes about its job without doing… that.

There are a bunch of cases, but my paradigm for SCOTUS telling the Executive “no” is in the New Deal cases, notably when the Court invalidated the entire National Industrial Recovery Act. (Which, to be sure, was an act of Congress.) So until the Court shifted (on a different piece of legislation) a year later, there was a lot of stuff that the Executive couldn’t do.

This is different, because the Executive is ostensibly required to do the Census, which has logistical requirements that don’t accommodate this fight.

So I’m asking a serious question: what happens if the Executive refuses to accept the Court’s decision not to have the citizenship question (should that be the result)?

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More likely, Trump goes to press with the question on the form even if he’s denied the right to do so.

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That’s certainly one possibility, but since it requires spending money the Congress allocates in a way the SCOTUS would have forbidden, it immediately raises several other issues.

Which is why I ask.

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“Go right after his “strength.””

Taunt and mock.

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