How Trump Already Duped The Judge In The MAL Case - TPM – Talking Points Memo

Interesting…if she is on the level, she can help herself in the manner you describe…Other posters (including myself) are quite wary.

Smith makes the right calls, hopefully.

see @carolson upthread

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Speaking of Trump toadies, has anyone else seen Schiff tearing Durham apart and making him look like the idiot, liar, fool, and Trump-loving hack he is? it’s glorious:

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Headline is misleading. He may have duped Cannon initially, but the bulk of the article is is about how by doing so, he may have also pissed off the judge and screwed himself to some degree for this trial.

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Am counting on this.

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At least there was someone on guard.

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The other possibility is that she goes all in. She’s already a laughingstock, but a laughingstock with a well-paying lifetime job. So if the continues to be in the tank, she gets reversed again (maybe) but still has the money and the job and gets to help other members of the criminal gang she’s associated with in the future. Only from a position of anger at having been dissed, like Clarence Thomas.

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It’s important to note here that it was Evan Corcoran, and not Trump himself, who made these false representations in a motion he filed in Judge Cannon’s court. We can now add filing a motion containing misrepresentations of fact and allowing (wittingly or unwittingly) his legal services to be used to commit a crime or fraud to the tally of Corcoran’s misdeeds and unethical conduct. He remains part of Trump’s legal team, despite the fact that he was a key witness against Trump before the grand jury that indicted him and will be a primary witness for the government against Trump at trial. There are not too many ethical rules left for him to violate at this point.

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I don’t know about before, but after last fall’s remand I’ll bet she has now. It’s only about 1.5-2 pages long. Reading the relevant cases would take longer.

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The article delves into that a bit, with one attorney pointing out civil and criminal statements of fact are “apples and oranges”. Also that she is under no obligation to consider these inconsistencies herself, only should the SC bring them up. Your segue to “that’s not impartial” doesn’t work.

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Only if she intends to follow the rules and intents of CIPA. But the case has a CISO (the O is for Ossifer) assigned to it, a requirement. A CISO is kind of like a CIPA specialist parliamentarian who advises both sides and the judge on rules and procedure.

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TPM reviewed the filings and transcripts from the earlier civil suit and compared the representations

I love TPM.


Unrelatedly: maybe I’m a weirdo, but I particularly enjoy the wordsmithing that Kovensky used to compress this incident into a single, clear sentence while preserving the ambiguity inherent in Corcoran’s original statement:

Corcoran himself purportedly recalled one interaction in which Trump made a “funny” motion with his hands during a conversation about returning a batch of the records to the government, which Corcoran understood to be a suggestion that he “pluck” a record out of the batch.

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As I recall, Judge Ellis decided the line is so fine it doesn’t exist.

This was back when he ruled that it’s not fraud to lie to a bank while securing a loan if the president of the bank understands (or suspects) it was a lie and decides to grant the loan anyway.

Just doing his part to pave the way for more malice disguised as incompetence.

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I hear he has quite the stare. I also heard shartstain wouldn’t look at him at the arraignment. Someone’s got your number loser. Heh heh. Jack Smith on lines 1, 2,… 37…

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No, they are not. You dislike that she is an amoral hack with a track record of pursueing an agenda of using the bench for professional advancement, so are going all hurr, durr, unqualified and inexperienced. She’s as qualified as most judges appointed in their early 40s, and as for inexperienced, she has more trial experience than some well respected supreme court nominees whose names you would recognize. But trial experience isn’t really the right metric, it’s how many cases a judge has prepared, because 99.something percent of cases get settled before trial, criminal ones too. She spent 8 years handling cases as AUSA, then 4 years at a white shoe law firm. As for lack of CIPA experience, very few judges outside of DC and EDVA have that.

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This may be right. It is, actually, another good argument for Judge Cannon to recuse herself, and an even stronger argument for forcing her to recuse if she doesn’t do it.

In reality, she showed us who she is. I believe her.

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By doing so, he subjected you to public humiliation when your rulings were savaged by the Eleventh Circuit.

"You gonna make the same mistake again?”

Just who is doing the humiliating by bringing that up? You try cases to win, not to score points on the judge. I really doubt the prosecution mentions that unless she goes there again.

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But now she knows she has to do it in a way that doesn’t embarrass the 11th circuit. My prediction is excrutiatingly scrupulous adherence to CIPA in a way that by a 100 little increments punts the trial past the election. Post election either a GOP preznit can pardon him, or if Biden wins they can cut him loose. He’s useless for 2028 and likely a net negative again for the midterms.

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Nominee for #badlegaltakes

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Thank you for the lovely compliment. Backatcha!

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I thought that when a client causes his/her attorney to make false statements to the court, the liability attaches to the client, not the attorney?

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