There was little consensus as House progressives streamed out of a meeting with President Joe Biden about the reconciliation framework released by the White House Thursday morning.
When asked whether she was prepared to vote yes on the bipartisan bill after the meeting with Biden, Rep. Cori Bush (D-MO) was blunt: âNo,â she said.
Not to fret, Iâm sure things will get better once both houses of Congress are back in the hands of the GOP.
With Manchin and Sinema arenât they already?
Take the compromise, but not on trust. Progressives only got this far by finally rejecting the Lucy and the football ploy. This is the only meaningful vote theyâll get for at least a decade. Donât throw it away now as a gift to bad faith negotiators. Not only will they lose on the issues at stake, theyâll vaporize their credibility.
Iâve been generally supportive of the so-called progressives in general and the squad in particular, as a counterweight to pragmatists to help strike a balance. But this is simply posturing with a long string of loaded terms for a bill that didnât give everyone everything they wanted because thatâs not possible with the laws of physics in this universe being what they are. JFC.
So the bottom line is this - if Progressives do not get on board and vote for the BIF, the Democratic agenda will fail and Democrats will lose both the House and Senate in 2022. Period. Full stop. Manchin and Sinema are not negotiating in good faith. Acknowledge that and take the win for the American people.
You began this post saying âtake the compromise.â Which way are you saying they should vote? I honestly donât know what youâre recommending here.
Can the Republicans put together a veto-proof majority? No? Then the answer to your question is also no.
[âJayapal said that Biden was âconfident he could get the votesâ in the Senate, but that it wasnât clear if Manchin and Sinema had fully bought in. In statements to reporters Thursday morning, both senators praised the âgood faithâ negotiations without promising outright to vote for the package.â]
This is promising. Now weâll need for people to put the countryâs interests first. We need both billsâŚand, for me, âbehind closed doorsâ has promise.
Ahead of âWhat do I need to do to best position myself to get reelected?â?
Quit, youâre killing us here!
Objectivity is the first casualty of the 24/7 ânewsâ cycle.
There still are several pieces in this framework that â in and of themselves â would be considered huge wins were Dems to pass them separately.
The problem is not objective reality, but subjective expectation.
If you build up a narrative (as the Perpetual Georgetown Cocktail Party⢠has) that anything short of unconditional surrender will be a âdevastating defeat for Bidenâ, then even getting things that make incredibly-positive differences to tens of millions of Americans can be spun as a âlossâ.
America will far better off, even with this two-thirds of a loaf than with none at all.
To paraphrase Dean Wormer: âTaking scandal-starved Beltway insiders seriously is no way to go through life, son.â
Thanks.
Progressives donât trust the two senators right now, Cohen said. âThatâs the problem.â
Jayapal doesnât have plans to speak with Sinemanchin, or her Senate ally Sanders, today, according to Cohen, and apparently thatâs for the best.
âI doubt that would be a good conversation,â he said.
Gracias, El Capitan Obviouso
Well, Iâm disgusted. Weâve got 2 DINOs in the senate who donât give a damn about the environment, the less than wealthy, their grandchildrenâs generation (whom will live in a world of catastrophic climate conditions), inequality on all fronts and, subsequently, the future of the country they were elected to represent. And Biden has failed us too by not reigning in this BS! Weâre handing the future of this country right back to Trump. Way to go bastards!
In my view Progressives should vote NO until the other bill passes the Senate. In fact in my view the other bill is unsatisfactory and should not be accepted by progressives.
The problem is Democrats made a tactical mistake with the two tier approach. The two tier approach, largely due to the mediaâs love of any supposed âbipartisanshipâ strengthened the hand of the two corporate Democrats who well wanting programs that first benefit Corporations and then gets trickled down to people, are otherwise opposed to programs that benefit people first.
That is Democrats should have stuck with a single bill and fuck Republican votes which were really only given for the BIF as a sabotage of Democrat priorities and to a great extent it worked.
And when two senators do not want to eat their strained peas, he does what?
Nancy may have to save the Democrats from themselves. There are too many people in front of mikes right now.
Well, if he were Trump, he would blast them on Twitter. Thankfully he isnât.
Democracy works through compromise. However, until Sinemanchin commit to the BBB, I support the progressives holding the BIF for leverage. Both senators have shown that they canât be trusted based on vague statements.