That actual danger was perpetrated by his own actions and/or lack of same up to that point.
No donut.
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But she is married to Alan Greenspan (idk if heâs still alive).
I wonder who Chuck Todd is married to.
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True, but I still object to praising it as something heroic. They only did what they were supposed to do as part of their job description and oath to uphold the Constitution.
The closest thing I saw to actual heroism was the release of that recording of Trumpâs Georgia phone call to subvert the election. And that was more CYA than true heroism. Heroism would have been any of these GOPâers speaking out more directly about what Trump was doing.
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Imagine drawing one of them to be their Secret Santa.
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I refuse to call her by name. I prefer âMrs. Greenspanâ although maybe âGreene Spawnâ is more appropriate.
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I havenât see any beatification of Pence. Iâve seen it be recognized that he refuse to cross a line wrt Congressional certification of the election and took a stand against Trump on that. Iâve seen his absolute fury in the resumed session as MTG and others in the House bloviated about âobjectionâ w/o Senate support. And I saw the designs on his life for doing so. The horror that is Trump is what this is all about. No one is claiming Sainthood for Pence
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False
And both of those events were after a long sequence of actions in trumpâs favor. Itâs almost as if a few republicans still have limits past which they wonât go in the pursuit of power. Like the mob bosses who decided there were some rackets that were too evil to get into. And were soon enough replaced by mobsters with fewer qualms.
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What option do you think Pence had? To look and be a fool? All Pence had power to do is preside; he could not change or stop the results of the election. I donât see what heroism there is is doing the only thing one could ever do. Itâs like making a weatherman a hero because the pointed out that the sun rose in the morning.
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Stop already with the moronic strawmen. No one is saying Pence is a hero
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Because Pence (if thatâs who weâre talking about) tried to have it both ways, being the hero while covering up the cause of the danger they were all in.
When the EC count resumed later that night, he denounced the rioters as if they appeared out of thin air, and didnât denounce Trump as the root cause. That would have been heroism. Instead, he slithered back to the WH in the following days and âmade upâ with Trump, according to reports. Heâs a toady, not a hero.
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I have no doubt that everyone expressing some hope/thoughts that some minds were changed is well aware that assholes like Thune and Lee wonât be one of them. I doubt a single Dem is banking on the possibility of attracting 17 Republicans to convict. But it doesnât hurt for Dems to be out there saying that the evidence is powerful enough that it should change minds because it should and it would if the GQP werenât so thoroughly morally bankrupt.
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Okay, point out when he first admitted Biden won the election.
On Wed the 4th? Nope.
On Dec 14th? Nope.
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Biden and Schumer of course are correct. In the public outside of Congress that paid attention to the news of this trial, that saw the evidence, it will have changed some minds.
But the Republican party was part of this scheme with Benadick Donnie. The best that those politicians could have hoped was to bury the evidence. Not happening.
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Irrelevant.
If youâd stop trying to put words in my mouth, youâd be able to see that for yourself
âFalseâ. Your word, singular.
Please do present us with your profile in courage for VP Kills a Lot.
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Your (completely unsubstantiated assertion) was indeed false.
Prove it. Weâll wait.
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Onus is on you (it was your assertion) not me