Originally published at: Hours Away, Government Shutdown Seems Inevitable
The government will shut down at midnight. The Senate is in session, and is expected to vote on both the Republican, House-passed continuing resolution and the Democratic counter proposal later in the day. Both will almost certainly fail. House Republicans are still away from D.C., prompting taunts from House Democrats, who gathered behind House Minority…
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Government shut down…
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Schumer and Jeffries had better not cave. Hold the fuckers’ feet to the fire. They did this to themselves.
Oh, and screw every farmer who voted for that MoFo.
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Democrats shouldn’t be voting to advance anything republicans put forward. Ever. Make republicans run the show on their votes alone: total obstruction, all the time, until the rule of law is restored.
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I was thinking Mamdani should say he wants Jeffries /Schumer to cave, so they do the opposite?
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One question I have: as I understand, the House CR runs through November and while it’s technically not a “clean” CR, it still by & large maintains status quo funding. What was the issue with the Dems agreeing to this CR but warning that anything beyond it would require all the things they’re currently asking for (restoration of ACA subsidies, etc.)? And then using the next couple of months to try to negotiate, which when that failed, would just strengthen the Dems’ position?
I’m sure they considered and rejected this option for a good reason, I’m just not sure what that reason was.
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The collapse of the US government will be a little sooner than expected, I guess. Might as well get it over with. And the whole reason the GQP won’t agree to the premium fix as they’re using that to smash Obamacare once and for all as it enters a death spiral of increasing premiums.
Gonna laugh my ass off when the air traffic controllers sick out and the GQP congresscritters have to drive back to DC.
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I confess that I am biased, but Mike Johnson just gives me the creeps.
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Within the Department of the Interior, there has been no official communication about the shutdown or the planned RIF (mass firing of employees).
OPM has posted this:
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Me too. Something freaky about him: hot and cold, redolent somehow of an Inquistor hating the sin but loving the sinner as they burn them. Weird, can’t seem to see him any other way.
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It’s quite simple - there is ZERO trust that the GOP will negotiate in good faith after such a CR expires, OR that Trump and Vought will not impound any funds the Democrats manage to restore for healthcare. As MLK famously said “later means never”.
What this means is that unless and until the GOP nukes the filibuster, the government will be shutdown until the Nov. 2026 election. At which point much of America will look like Hooverville.
The Democrats are finally, conceding that they are dealing with traitors - there is no point in trying to compromise with the GOP.
The GOP needs to own their mismanagement and betrayal of the sovereign - We The People. The GOP can reopen the government by nuking the filibuster and passing a new budget with only GOP votes. Let them do it and own their unAmerican results.
History may not repeat but it definitely rhymes.
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They won’t do that. They don’t want to own this shit pile of a bill , they want it to be bipartisan
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I believe that the easiest answer to this question is, what reason is there to believe that Republicans will negotiate in good faith in the next 6 weeks? Yeah, Democrats could agree to a CR now and when Republicans inevitably try to throw the same excuses at the wall in November the Democrats can say, “See we tried being bipartisan,” but does anyone care? All agreeing to a CR does is kick the can down the road and gives the GOP a chance to muddy the issues.
If the GOP can put together appropriations bills in that time those bills are bound to be wrapped up in a whole lot of negotiations where the issue the Democrats on focused on can get lost in the crowd. By focusing, primarily, on getting a real extension to the ACA subsidies now the Democrats can say, “Trump’s One Big Billionaire Benefit Bill hurt people by favoring tax cuts over healthcare. We stood firm and fixed the GOP mistake.”
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Exactly. Which is why the Democrats hold the Ace, and they should not give in without getting what they want - a reversal on all these healthcare cuts - ALL of them. If GOP wants to cut healthcare they need to own it, so the sovereign can throw them all out of office in about 13 months.
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The only problem I see for Democratic politicians is that at some point the autocratic rule of the Republican party and Donald Trump has to be brought to the public for a decision. Unless Democrats put clarity to that issue as well, the public will continue to ignore it.
Not an easy task, but they might be able to pull that off as well. Just a IMO, Republicans need an insurance premium fix too or they will face consequences in the next election cycle, and I am guessing many of them know that. The Democrats have drawn the line in the sand, and boxes are defined, so Democrats have now boxed-in Republicans to their choice to screw over Americans clearly in the public mind. Democrats need to keep it that way.
My prediction, the Republicans will do away with the filibuster in the Senate. And, they will become even more authoritarian, not less. And Democrats can spring board that to inform people about what is happening.
The terrible part, Obamacare is gone and those premium prices are going up, no matter what Democrats do. The only part that Republicans are trying to figure out is how to blame Democrats for that. So, Democrats by focusing people’s attention now has the effect of clarification, making it harder for Republicans to obscure the issue here, they chose billionaire’s donations over people.
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There is some guy on TikTok threatening to release his Grindr profile. There is nothing that would surprise me less.
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Don’t think so, They do not want to be the sole owners of that shit pile bill, they want it to be bipartisan
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What I am suggesting is that Democrats not allow them the opportunity for bipartisanship, do not allow Republicans to crawl out of the boxes they created for themselves.
My edit here: The problem is that Republicans will kill Obamacare regardless. Unless of course Democrats get power back. And any power sufficient for that will not happen in over 3 years in the next Presidential election as things stand as I understand it.
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The other replies have given good, substantive answers, here’s a shorter one:
Republicans have the majority in both chambers. It’s the majority’s job to keep the government funded.
The speaker’s job is to unify his caucus around a bill that can pass both houses. Republicans rammed the “OBBB” through on a party line vote, they can keep the government running on a party-line vote. If republicans can’t unify around republican priorities too bad so sad. Democrats should only vote for bills that advance democratic priorities.
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