Horowitz Hints That IGs Are Discussing Potential Probes Of Trump-Ukraine Mess | Talking Points Memo

Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz dropped several hints in congressional testimony Wednesday about discussions he and the inspectors general at other departments have had about investigating President Trump’s and his allies’ Ukraine gambit.


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“Question question question??”

“Well, I’d like to keep my pension.”

“Question? Question question?”

“LIke I said, I’d like to keep my pension.”

“I see…well what about question question question?”

“Yeah, my pension and all…”

“But question question? Question question?”

“I’m sorry, but pension… pension pension pension.”

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Wow, I wonder why the only agency IG that can’t investigate top official is the DoJ?

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Harris’ questioning was excellent. Really put the focus on Barr’s and Giuliani’s corruption, and Horowitz was kinda with her on those points. It is news that other IGs have discussed a more formal investigation of the UKR matter, but are deferring until Congress’ work is done. Her point that AG Barr should be investigated would be an ideal spot for the IGs to address. The Inspector General for the Intel Community should be the first to investigate Barr and invite Horowitz to join. Put Lord Barr on the defensive.

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OT:

" Months before he died, Volcker ripped into Trump and ‘nihilistic forces’ undermining confidence in the US"

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O please! It’s overdue.

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Again, Horowitz brought up the statuary impediments that prevented him from looking at conduct of Justice Department attorneys.

When I heard this, I could have sworn that Horowitz said he needed approval (or even a new law) to investigate rogue DOJ AGs, etc. But I could be wrong, as I have stepped back from this idiocy to preserve some sanity.

Anyhow, as my wife and I argued this morning whether we now have a constitutional republic or a Republican fascist state, aka Mussolini, I stumbled upon this old 2015 bit, which brought us back to the good things in life. Worth a look.

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This is what I understand, too. The change to the existing law has already passed the House and been introduced in the Senate where it is, you guessed it, held up by Moscow Mitch.

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This is but reason 895,897,854 why we need to win the 2020 election.

This rule is why Barr feels free to act lawlessly, the IG can’t investigate him.

It will take a criminal investigation of barr’s Conduct, starting January 21, 2021 to address his conduct.

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I watched her questioning (she is very good) and Horowitz was very uncomfortable and almost squirmy. She finally got him to admit conversations among the I.G.'s and that Giuliani’s behavior was problematic. She landed a couple of punches.

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If Barr is doing what I think he’s doing, there should be a multitude of people coming out against him, certainly the rank and file of people who have taken a Constitutional Oath.

Crickets…

You cannot have an arch-criminal be the top cop in the U.S.
Worse…it’s all out in the open and widely accepted.

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OT but oh my, Lev is in deep deep manure. This is curious -Russia comes up again.

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Front Page material. Not a BothSider angle at all.

Seriously

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Fresh-

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We now have no law in the U.S. We have a man who can open up an investigation on anyone, who can hide the reports of completed investigations, who can lie about those investigations, who can threaten the withholding of police services.

A man who does this in the open. With a smirk and zero respect for anyone not in his Tribe.

We have had marches before. A march to remove Barr may be the most important one yet. Given the fact that we are a Nation of Laws, I submit that Barr’s removal ranks with every issue brought up with Occupy.

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My final word on Barr on this thread:

Barr’s continued activities call into question the integrity of what is commonly referred to as “The Department of Justice”

In the House Intel Committee Hearings, we were treated to flowery praise of “career professionals” who rose above the corruption of political appointees.

The “Department of Justice” trashes that notion entirely. There are no so-called “career professionals” such as those in the State Department in the “Department of Justice”. Worse, no one is speaking about this disparity. It almost reminds me of the slave days I used to read about in Ante Bellum history reading:

That-which-Is-Not-Spoken-Of-Because-Of-Abject-Oppression-And-Brutality.

What is it about DOJ and Barr such that he can operate outside civilized (for the U.S.) norms** for nearly one year with zero consequences from the so-called

“Department of Justice”?

**no honoring of subpoenas, no recusals and, of course the threats and lies

bullshit

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She might be out of the Presidential race, but I think she may have many moments to come to shine…and prospects for resuscitating her profile and her political ambitions.

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Are you trying to imply that Trump’s persecution of McCabe is somehow serving as a warning/threat to other FBI leaders? I.e.: that firing McCabe was also an act of witness intimidation?

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But she still has a platform and she can be very effective. I hope she continues full-bore without the distraction of seeking the nomination.

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I certainly hope so. She was the first (and only) Presidential candidate this year that I contributed to. She is (was) more capable than any other candidate to confront and question the witnesses and the other congresspersons. Moxie!!

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