GOP Guvs Brush Off Overturn Of Roe

Bless your little heart.

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What timeline would that have been exactly? The 49 years that the Religious Right, NOT progressives, told you this would happen?

“There is no difference between Al Gore and George W. Bush.”

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Quote where I’ve stated anything of the sort. I’ll wait.

Same melody.

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Oh sure; no doubt, unfortunately.

Not in the slightest. I’ve voted Democratic my entire life. I’ve bought my right to criticize the party with every vote I made since 1988. So I have no idea what strawman you’re tilted against. But it certainly isn’t me.

In all your smug wisdom, answer me just one thing… how exactly do you propose voting our way out of theft of the republic by this conservative court? They’re already on record as stating they intend on unraveling Griswold, Lawrence and Obergefell. Do you seriously think any law, passed through Congress with a Democratic supermajority, is going to stand up to a court that has no compunction determining the law their way? How do you propose fighting the finality of this court?

Followed by:

Maybe I’m ignorant of history, but I recall (from being alive and aware on the day Roe was handed down) that it hasn’t been 50 years, but a lot less – because the GOP didn’t even seize on abortion as a national political issue until the Carter administration (nearing its end) revoked Bob Jones University’s tax-exempt status in reaction to the school’s ban on inter-racial dating.

That (it seems to me, at least) was when the GOP realized it could cobble together so-called “white evangelicals” (the Bob Joneses) with catholics (the anti-choicers) to form a potent Republican religious block from two historically-disparate and mutually-distrustful camps, with racism as the catalyst.

Evidenced, of course, by some of the ugliest racism I’ve ever witnessed, as (mostly) catholic parents in traditionally “liberal” strongholds like Boston (!) attacked school buses full of court-ordered, racially-desegregated children.

(Of course, that doesn’t fit the popularly-perceived mismemory hyped by Republican pols, megachurchers, and corporate journalists, but they’ve got a narrative to sell, by G-d, historical facts be damned!)

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There is a strawman.

Let’s say it’s 40 years with Falwell’s involvement. What’s your point?

I don’t have to brandish my bona fides to you, sir. I will continue to criticize my party’s fecklessness without your approval.

Try to do so without ad hominins

To you or to Democratic leadership? Because if you expect the latter, it simply will not happen.

So how are these already (usually) poor states which have often refused Medicaid expansion and have only the most minimal welfare support for families going to deal with thousands of new babies every year? “We’ll match you up with some adoptive family?” Ha.

GOP governors: “Pay no attention to that shit-eating grin on my face.”

I’m not sure which side of y’all’s discussion this’ll put me on, but just in case it wasn’t complex enough already, I’ll add that I’m pretty sure the history you’re talking about took place soon after I turned 21 in the early 1980s, which may explain why it’s stuck w/ me.

Anyway, it wasn’t that the feds ‘forced (=required)’ the States to comply w/ raising the drinking age to 21; it was more (IIRC) that they ‘encouraged’ the States to do so by withholding federal highway/transportation funds to States that didn’t. Thus, the States had the legitimate ability to keep their lower (18 years old, typically, as in my home state of Jokelahoma) drinking age(s)–they’d just lose their federal highway funding (usually, I now know, 90% of the cost of a project, w/ the state providing the other 10%).

Of course, the States wanted their damn money more than they wanted to pony up 10x their usual cost to (re)build a highway, so the drinking ages got standardized, PRONTO!

So. I’m pretty sure we’d all agree that such persuasion, encouragement, and/or coercion is walking on a mighty fine line and is strongly dependent on each individual’s own interpretation.

Anyway, I hope this might help… :man_shrugging: :thinking: :mask:

Fighting the ‘last war’ (i.e.: yesterday) is slightly copacetic, but I’ve places to be, so nope.

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“Did they tell you about the tragedy we had here?”

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