FDA Panel Outlines Who Should Get COVID-19 Vaccine Next | Talking Points Memo

NEW YORK (AP) — A federal advisory panel recommended Sunday that people 75 and older and essential workers like firefighters, teachers and grocery store workers should be next in line for COVID-19 shots, while a second vaccine began rolling out to hospitals as the nation works to get the coronavirus pandemic under control.


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Billionaires, followed by GOP politicians, followed by Red State super-spreaders?

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“FDA Panel Outlines Who Should Get COVID-19 Vaccine Next.”

“The one-sentence statement from the independent panel read simply, ‘Everyone but Pat Toomey’.”

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nah, then they’d be admitting it’s not a hoax

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“It absolutely was not poor planning,” he said. “There’s what we plan. There’s what we actually allocate. There’s what’s delivered, and then there’s what’s actually put in people’s arms.”

I am beginning to lose confidence in Adams. What a bunch of verbal nonsense. He might as well have said “it is what it is”.

[Okay, in reality I never had confidence in him to begin with. He is a Trump selection.]

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Beat me to it. Let’s not kid ourselves, it’s the people willing to “donate” a minimum of $25k who are at the front of the line.

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We’ll see, in the fullness of time. Why is it that It seems no one really knows “what’s going on?”

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Teacher here. My first response is to ask if I can lend a hand getting the vaccines to the next bunch of folks. While we’re at it, how about inoculating students, too? Online school just plain sucks.

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How else will Trump get a jump on his 2024 campaign if his bois don’t get the shot first?

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“It absolutely was not poor planning,” surgeon general Jerome Adams said. “There’s what we plan. There’s what we actually allocate. There’s what’s delivered, and then there’s what’s actually put in people’s arms.”

Do you think that Jerome Adams now realizes how remarkably stupid and contradictory his statement is? This is exactly what planning is supposed to support: allocation, delivery, injection. Exactly.
:man_facepalming:

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In my opinion teachers should get the vaccine in the first group, so the kids can get back to school as soon as possible. Unfortunately, the kids themselves will have to wait a while as the Pfizer vaccine was only tested on individuals 16 and older so only people 16 and older can get the vaccine under the EUA. On their original study Moderna tested on 18 and older, but are in the process of testing on kids 12 to 17 years old. If we open schools with only teachers being vaccinated, then it could happen by the spring, but if we wait till the kids are vaccinated, schools won’t open til fall.

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The committee also voted that behind those groups should be people aged 65 to 74, numbering about 30 million
…those aged 16 to 64 with medical conditions…numbering as many as 110 million
…and a tier of other essential workers. This group of as many as 57 million

So…basically everybody else that hasn’t been vaccinated as a front-line worker in the first round and those over age 74. Also worth noting, the Trump administration has only secured enough vaccinations to vaccinated 150 million people though I’m confident the Biden admin will step and make sure the remaining are covered, not surprising Trump continues to bungle this. Also, why wasn’t this schedule determined 6 months ago?

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Since I probably won’t qualify for the vaccine until early summer, at least by then we will have a good idea how safe and effective it really is.

Mask and isolation until then.

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This recommended roll-out is indicative of there being no confidence in prophylactic defence in either vaccine, meaning, it doesn’t prevent infection. Rather, it seems that the vaccine simply introduces a non-replicating load of the virus so that the recipient’s immune system mounts a muted response, and is thus primed to do the same in any subsequent true infection.

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Which means you will not be bringing the kids back to school until they’re vaccinated because to do otherwise would guarantee that one infected kid would infect others, who would take the virus home to their parents and grandparents.

This is a virulent, communicable disease. Until we have you vaccinated, you can’t meet face to face with others, because to do so would mean greatly, greatly increasing the chances of spreading the disease. Vaccinate any particular community, then they can meet face to face, and not a day before you do…

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Technically, we are in the first group, Group 1B. We get in line right after medical personnel and those under their care.

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I’m a front line hospital health care worker and I have kids at home doing remote learning. I would be more than happy to have you go before me in the vaccination line.

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Do you include non-teaching administrative and other support staff like facility, housekeeping and food service personnel in this distribution? I’m in the first category, but my wife is temporarily WFH for a state governmental agency, and is in the ‘general population,’ AKA ‘inessential.’ Should she have to wait long after I do to get vaccinated herself? What does the science say about that situation?

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Ya, General Adams’ role in the Rump Administration has been pretty clearly not one of unassuming competence or leadership. I mean it’s not like 1/3 of the truck drivers unexpectedly overdosed the night before! Poor planning is the most generous possible description of every aspect of this Trump Virus pandemic.

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I was adding up the numbers there, and if I got it right, the “general public” is less than a quarter of the US population. (Although a lot depends on that “up to 110 million” of people with comorbidities. ) At the current rates, it will be more than two years.

Also, whether or not you vaccinate the undocumented isn’t just about ethics, it’s about public health, since these are exactly the kind of people (mobile, multiple workplaces, small living quarters) who will otherwise act as a persistent reservoir for community spread.

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