FDA And CDC Recommend Pause On J&J COVID Vaccines Amid Reports Of Blood Clotting

[storm]

so a rare clotting disorder. 1 ppm, only seen in women?
how about instead of wasting the doses, setup a few male only mass vax sites in michigan.

[reggid]

6 cases out of 6.8 million vaccinations does not seem to warrant the level of alarm being raised.

[tena]

I agree. I think the general problem of suspicion of the vaccines is what prompted the extra extra caution and it seems statistically overblown.

[reggid]

@tena

I agree. I think the general problem of suspicion of the vaccines is what prompted the extra extra caution and it seems statistically overblown.

I fear it will only feed and fuel the GOP loonies and other anti-vaxxer idiots.

[tena]

Probably. It’s unfortunate.

[squirreltown]

@reggid

I fear it will only feed and fuel the GOP loonies and other anti-vaxxer idiots.

I’m not sure we’ll even notice. They don’t run on fuel.

[tena]

I’d much rather that you be right about this.

[geographyjones]

I know right?

It’s science so the loonies will reject it out of hand.

[khyber900]

What’s done is done. One can only hope that the FDA comes back with clear guidance quickly and ok’s this vaccine much as the UK has done for AZ.

[boidster]

@karlwlewis

When we examine mortality in general, without regard to actual cause, the statistics are sobering . I’m not a statistician, so, I can’t say for certain, but there are people who argue that almost everyone is likely to suffer at least one personally fatal event in their life.

It’s worse than that. We all have approximately two minutes left to live!

Every time we breathe, it resets the clock.

[osprey]

I appreciate the vigilance on the part of the CDC. My dismay stems from the fact that after several months waiting to be age eligible, followed by three weeks waiting for my appointment, I have been sent back to the beginning with no indication yet how all the cancelled appointments will be rescheduled (my appointment was supposed to be tomorrow.) Also, if I get switched to Pfizer or Moderna, I immediately add 3 to 4 weeks to the process, so instead of being fully protected at the end of April, I may very well be looking at end May or even sometime in June.

[cervantes]

@khyber900

I will say that the reporters did ask good questions at this presser, better than I expected.

Agreed.

[cervantes]

@boidster

It’s worse than that. We all have approximately two minutes left to live!

Every time we breathe, it resets the clock.

Glad you clarified that last bit.

[cervantes]

@tena

I agree. I think the general problem of suspicion of the vaccines is what prompted the extra extra caution and it seems statistically overblown.

Women aged 18-48 may want to know more!

[cervantes]

@storm

how about instead of wasting the doses, setup a few male only mass vax sites in michigan.

It’s possible to toss a coin six times and come up with heads six times. What looks like certainty may still be randomness in disguise.

Sparse data are sparse data – not yet time to draw conclusions from what’s available in press reports.

[bonvivant]

@cervantes

It’s possible to toss a coin six times and come up with heads six times. What looks like certainty may still be randomness in disguise.

So what you’re saying is …that just because ambulances are at the scene of every fatal vehicle accident, they are not the cause of fatal accidents???

[cervantes]

@bonvivant

So what you’re saying is …that just because ambulances are at the scene of every fatal vehicle accident, they are not the cause of fatal accidents???

I’ll have to get back to you on that.

[castor_troy]

@bonvivant

they are not the cause of fatal accidents???

Naw… That’s personal injury lawyers.

[sydneyp22]

The roll out has been far from what I would have recommended as a public health professional and it has been frustrating as hell. I hope you’ll get your shot soon!

[storm]

I thought they tossed 3,000,000 (male) coins and came up with 0 of these issues. That seems good enough to keep using, at least in the proposed targeted population.