Originally published at: DOJ Opens Door To Stripping Citizenship Over Politics - TPM – Talking Points Memo
Throughout the campaign, Republicans teased an idea: the next Trump government would start to remove the citizenship of naturalized Americans. Stephen Miller suggested it; the idea appeared in Project 2025. Online fever-swamp entrepreneurs, like Claremont Institute donor Charles Haywood, pushed a national “review” of everyone naturalized since 1965. Now, the DOJ has taken the first…
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Melania gets to the front of the line, though she probably wants to.
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This is all total bullshit. I don’t see how we get out of the situation we are in short of a second revolution. Depending on any of the three wholly owned branches of the government to do anything to stop this is obviously foolhardy.
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Depending on the “umpires” to “call balls and strikes” worked out real well. History books? Real elections? What quaint notions.
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“It’s a policy of fear that he’s trying to do,” Weil said.
+1 This is the background motive of everything Miller, Hogan, and Trump are trying to do with their reworking of our immigration system. It’s not just about catching and deporting immigrants, but also creating a disincentive for every foreigner who is thinking about coming here.
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Can’t remember where I saw it, but the quote was something like, “Only in America can you get fascism with shitty trains.”
We all know it’s going to get much darker because they keep one-upping their cruelty and batshit crazy ideas and there are fewer and fewer civil methods of recourse. All we can do is keep fighting and find joy where we can. They hate it when you’re happy.
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“The question is whether the administration will apply this kind of nihilistic legal maneuvering…”
OMG, is that really “the question”? Is it really in doubt?
Imagine the worst. Trump will do it.
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In ICE we have a Gestapo. In the Everglades we have a concentration camp. In the White House we have a mentally ill, incompetent, anti-American President and his lackeys. How long before our diseased government starts deporting and imprisoning citizens born here for acts of lese majeste?
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Soon.
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Meanwhile, in Ukraine, the Trump revenge tour continues. Ukraine must lose its independence to Russia for Zelenskyy refusing to make up lies about Biden in 2018:
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I hope that all of the Senators who voted
To allow toady sycophants such as Bondi and Rubio to hold Cabinet positions sleep well at night. Right up until the knocks are coming on their doors
….
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Melanoma and Elon Musk lied to gain citizenship. They should be stripped of citizenship and kicked out.
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Given that they declare everyone who dares to say Dear Leader is not the vessel of God a danger to national security, there’s really no limit here.
And let’s not forget that stripping the naturalized of citizenship is only a step on the road to what he said yesterday that he wants to do after that:
“We also have a lot of bad people that have been here for a long time … many of them were born in our country. I think we ought to get them the hell out of here too, if you want to know the truth. So maybe that’ll be the next job.”
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The real horror is the number of our fellow citizens who actually support the “mentally ill, incompetent, anti-American President and his lackeys” The fascists have eaten their brains. I’m not sure they’re politically redeemable before it’s too late.
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I bet they will split on their reactions. I’ll wager most will cheer as more of their neighbors are taken away, and a handful will have small doubts. What troubles me is that that handful, even politically redeemed, is not likely to have any power to do anything or lend the rest of us anything much. It’s up to us, and our Democratic leaders, such as they are. If Dear Leader takes it into his head to prosecute J.B. Pritzker, Bernie Sanders, Cory Booker, AOC, Elizabeth Warren, and Chris Murphy for some nonsense or other, what then?
I think we’re realistically left with counting on a few key Republicans to grow a pair. Of course, that will immediately put them in the apostate camp, and bring the wrath of MAGA upon them. Heck, soon it may be a ticket to their new Florida Disneyland. That won’t look good compared to being on the winning team. Not unless there are millions in the streets, and probably not even then.
I know it puts me in the doom-and-gloom camp, but counting on intelligence and kindness in this country hasn’t worked out very well. I expect this will be the ugly, incremental end to the experiment that was a pretty decent idea for 1776. And it almost got to being a nearly decent country.
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Poor Patrick Weil. He sounds like he believes this DoJ will follow strict legal procedure when attempting to strip people of their citizenship for no good reason. They will file suit, deport, and worry about the consequences (if any) later.
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Andy Ogles, (R TN).
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Purely political denaturalizations ended with a 1967 Supreme Court case
Settled law, so there is clearly no cause for concern.
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You forgot /s.
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