Discussion:

The photos that were released recently were from that night, after a very long day. Cheney actually had to authorize NORAD to shoot down non-responsive aircraft, the exchange was described as very emotional. An aide yelled “does the order still stand”, and he yelled back “yes, it still stands”. That’s some serious shit, he was under a lot of pressure that day. That night they, along with the rest of us, were pretty spent at that point. Yes, at that point, the thought was how to exploit it for their agenda. But he was not cheering as it happened, that is something Trump would say.

Asked and answered. “Can be customized, $3.70.”

I have to agree with @NCSteve on this point about the media. I know that I have given up on having any expectations of what he will say or do next.

But, I do harbor a suspicion that in the next 30-60 days, probably sooner than later, he is going to say something, which might even seem pretty tame by comparison, that the base will turn on him. And when it does, all of this type of stuff is going to be dredged back up and thrown in his face.

Summer is over, and now starts the time when people start to get a little more serious about their votes. So I think many will be looking for an excuse, any excuse, to jump off the Trump bandwagon.

…and yet, one of the first things W. did upon reaching the White House was to invite Prince Bandar over to smoke cigars on the balcony and watch the Pentagon burn. The ambassador of the country of which the majority of the hijackers were from.

We will never know rest of that conversation, but we do know that they discussed how to fly out of the country, all of bin Laden’s family…while NOBODY else in the country could fly anywhere. And to ensure that they would not be interrogated by federal LEO in any fashion before they left.

And as for Cheney, well…consider that his wife repeatedly hung up on the President, ostensibly because the phone calls were interfering with HER watching of CNN. At least that’s her story. THAT’S some serious shit.

Lady MacBeth smelled the throne, and Dickey was right there with her on that.

On the 14th anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks, many Twitter users drew attention to a message the Republican presidential frontrunner posted in 2013 extending his “best wishes to all, even the haters and losers” on that “special date.”

I often get a bit of a chill or a spontaneous shudder when thinking of Trump. First, so many of his fanatical flock voted for George W. Bush and STILL think Dumbya’ was a ‘great’ president. Then I think, "OMFG! George W. Bush WAS actually president!
{{{shudder #1}}}.

And then I remember something my grandfather once said when Ronald Reagan was running for the presidency: “You don’t have to worry. There is no way in hell Reagan will ever be elected president.”
{{{shudder #2}}}

I swear to gawwwd’ I think Donald Trump is this republic’s big ol’ hairy unlubricated rectal thermometer…perhaps we had to have him make this mad run for president to see just how fu*king sick we are, and so this has to run its course.

I’m not sure how it will play out, but I do know that this is not the stage in a presidential campaign when you want to be at the top of the polls if you’re a novelty candidate with a largely unexamined life. It may well be that there will come a point when his shit becomes tiresome to many who are not yet tired of it and some seemingly one-of-many typical trumpism will be the one comment too many that suddenly separates the die-hards from the casual hangers. In particular, he needs to steer clear of the urge to attack someone deemed utterly off-limits by even the most minimal standards of decency. Like, say, insulting Malala Yousafzai or cracking a joke about the efficacy of letting illegal immigrants drown on sinking ships.

But I don’t know that for sure. So far, Trump’s recipe for dealing with comments that have that potential has been to double down, dial up the original offensiveness to 11, insult and belittle whoever calls him out in half-a-dozen bullying tweets and then rapidly move on to some other outrageousness de jour, leaving his last outrage to harden into yet another breach in the rapidly disintegrating boundaries on what stupid white racists believe it valid and socially safe for them to openly say.

Link?

No, that was two days later. On the 12th a CIA official had told Bandar 15 of the hijackers were Saudis. On the 13th, Bandar met with Bush. Yes, they had to cover up embarrassment of Saudi ties to 9/11, the bin Laden family, etc. Agreed. Business required a cover up. This is established fact.

But how does that translate to them cheering what had just happened? THAT is what I replied to, that somehow the Bush Admin was cheering 9/11. This is absurd. You make it sound like Bandar and Bush were smoking a cigar the night of 9/11 as if “toasting” the Pentagon burning. Bandar was not there that day, that is totally false. And no one was “celebrating”, this is absurd.

It’s just a gut feeling on my part. But I could see a scenario where, as an example, Trump goes after Carson next week in or leading up to the debates, and the evangelicals finally decide to get their feathers ruffled, and turn on him, dragging up his repeated comments about his own daughter and his previous mocking of asking God for forgiveness.

Yes, I know, they certainly didn’t give a crap about Dugar molesting his sisters, but that’s the thing about holy rollers. Their sanctimony is always there to be pulled out, unconstrained by the hypocrisy of previous positions. And once Trump starts dipping in the polls, he will likely double down on his offensiveness, which will start a cascade.

However it plays out, I do think that when eventually Trump starts slipping in the polls, he will collapse pretty quickly. There are other candidates to turn to for the anti-establishment types that are flocking to him now, and Trump is entirely a media candidate. Once the media starts to run with a different story.i.e, that Trump is losing…he really has nothing to fall back upon.

When Dick Cheney smiles, a million humans die.

I’ve never seen that happen. But again, if you think he was loving innocent American people dying on 9/11, that’s just real silly, and stoops to Trump’s level. And he did not “love” all those Americans dying in Iraq either. He actually did think it would be a cakewalk. He’s a depraved moron. But he did not cheer Americans dying on 9/11. This is just nuts.

'and that’s how grown folks are supposed to act."

You are correct, of course. The only problem is - what if the American people want that.

Be careful what you wish for.

I suspect Trump can hover around 30-35 percent of Republican support for quite some time, maybe even through the early primaries, possibly into the RNC. But can he win an election with one-third of the less than 50% that have voted Republican the last two cycles? Because, with Trump, there is no up-side. His negatives are off-the-charts for any Presidential aspirant, much less party nominee, And while every outrageous comment of his may energize his base, which apparently enjoys gorging on spoiled red meat, it alienates him from everybody else – especially the moderates who typically decide elections.

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf

As well as in Richard Clarke’s book.

But why am I not surprised that you are here defending the Bushies and Cheney in particular for being an American Hero?

26% of the American people.

So Trump has become the crazy guy tweeting 3:00a.m insults to everyone who was mean to him. We are talking serious psychological issues here.

yeah not even a heapin helpin of heavy duty special formula preparation H can help that flamein asshole

It should be huger and more classier. Mostly huger

At some point (soon I hope) Trump will stick his foot in a great stinking pile of poo and succeed in insulting somebody such that even is rabid supporters cannot stomach his behavior. I wanna be around for the ensuing pop corn orgy.