Discussion: Your Obamacare Repeal Talking Points Debunker

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Can you please send these to every major news organization so that the next time we hear these blatant lies from a Republican spokesperson, the person doing the interviewing will be able to call them out?

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They are liars, pure and simple. Ryan tried to morph the $700 million in savings in Medicare to some scary BS when he was Mitt’s running mate and then turned around in the House and tried to USE the same $700 million. This morning he tried to throw shade at the implication that they DIDN’T have a plan with sarcasm…well then WHERE THE HELL is it, Paul? The 4 page glossy you threw at us 4 years ago is clearly crap and now you’ve explanded it to 57 pages? Really? You have a madman tweeting in the early a.m. with no understanding of what he is even SAYING. They make me sick, physically sick.

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Paul Ryan is the most disingenuous man alive when it comes to budgets, facts, oh let’s make this short. The man is absolutely as big a bs artist as Trump.

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GOP: Hey, man, we don’t need no stinking facts!!

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No sheet…

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Damn it! Facts don’t matter according to Scottie 'Hell" Hughes and Kayleigh McBullshit!

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Ryan is an unprincipled fraud; wants reputation as wonk but no substance underneath. Problem is media coverage is as “golden boy”. There’s been some tarnish, but we need to push it all the way with media.

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Several mainstream news outlets are headlining the fiction that Republicans are in the process of replacing Obamacare, when they’re doing nothing of the sort. They’re rushing to wipe Obama’s name from history without any idea of how to replace the ACA, and they need to be called out every time the topic is discussed.

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Goes along with Trump’s message to the GOP to make sure Dems take the fall for Obamacare’s 'failure". Your discussion, TPM, is much too nuanced for the average Trump supporter to understand. There needs to be short, simple talking points to get across the idea that the GOP is going to kick 30 million people off of their health insurance without providing a replacement plan. Short and sweet saves the day.

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From Josh’s Ed blog on the front page:

The fact that Republicans and the incoming Republican President are
spending so much time insisting that Obamacare is the most horriblest,
biggest failure ever is quite telling. Who do they need to convince?

Answer: The 20 million already on it, and the millions more who remember the pre-Obama healthcare problems.

ETA: Sorry, 30 million already on it.

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Don’t get carried away with false equivalence. Trump is a bigger BS artist; Ryan has on occasion shown shred of shame.

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Yeah. And if it’s such a “failure”, why has enrollment skyrocketed? Seems like there are an awful lot of people whom don’t see things the Republican way. I bet that there are a lot of REPUBLICANS signing up in the Marketplace too. Republicans seem to be increasingly cognizant of the reality that they can’t just up and pull the plug on ACA and there not be real-life consequences- and that they won’t just affect people whom never vote for nor donate to them.

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This is what we need to be talking about this morning. I hope this is legit if soshould be breaking news on all news media

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I posted this story myself this morning on two threads.

I mean WTF? Every day there is something else that is major evidence that this man was not legitimately elected and yet they are putting our heads in that noose anyway and I’m really pissed off at every single fucking person in DC for this, Democrats included.

Fuck the peaceful transfer of power. Fuck this shit! Quit handing us over to a rapist, thief, a liar and a Russian agent who was not elected.

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Re the supposed “failures” of the state ACA exchanges:

The healthcare reform plan passed in the House had a single, nationwide health exchange marketplace. Republicans, citing their Jeffersonian ideals of local government is better government, objected to this, and in the Senate submitted and got passed a provision for individual state exchanges, arguing that the states, being closer to their constituents than Washington is, are in a better position to identify and address local needs.

However, after the ACA was enacted, the Republican-led states refused to create their own exchanges, refused to devise their own statewide provider networks or provide input to the federal governments tasked with creating the exchanges, and that task fell to the federal government. They also refused to promote the benefits of coverage to their constituents, refused to publicize open-enrollment periods, refused to push back against steep rate hikes proposed by insurers, and tried to make things difficult for the so-called “navigators” who worked to help citizens enroll.

They refused to expand Medicaid in many states, joined in on lawsuits seeking to overturn or weaken the ACA, and in many other ways acted in bad faith. They deny the government’s role in providing access to healthcare, but also opposed the employer mandate.

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How is it that people still don’t see this or know it? I’m reading Trumpregrets from people who are saying they voted for him because they expected him to make more jobs and give them better government services. Where did this idea come from? The GOP doesn’t believe in government services - I do not understand how people got this abysmally stupid.

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Too many people choose to remain uninformed. They heard premiums are going up, and agree that it’s time to pull the plug on the ACA.

Never mind the success in expanding access, the fact that costs are still coming in under estimates, that Medicare’s life already has been extended over a decade, that hospital readmissions due to medical misadventures are down – only the GOP talking points are coming through.

Last night on MSNBC, someone blamed the Obama administration for not publicizing the benefits of the ACA. An official of HHS, however, pushed back, and noted the extensive outreach that had been going on, but added that the administration has struggled getting through over a billion dollars of negative anti-ACA propaganda.

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I’m healthy, single, relatively young, professional middle class, and I love Obamacare!

Why? Because if I (knock on wood) am ever hospitalized for a major illness I won’t have to declare bankruptcy while Big Hospital, Big Pharma and Big Insurance creditors seize my house.

Yeah, I pay more for Obamacare than I currently receive to help cover those less fortunate, but I know that Big Hospitals, Big Pharma and Big Insurance won’t seize my investment of a lifetime, my house, to cover the cost of a single major illness.

Home sweet home. I love Obamacare. Let’s make it even better.

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This is what they will find out…Their voters will lose first and most…

So be it!

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