Discussion: Why The BLM Shooting Suspect Believes He's A U.S. Attorney General

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Mental illness. I hope that in addition to his conviction and sentencing that he will receive psychiatric care for his rampant delusions.

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BLM Shooting Suspect's Bizarre Claim: He's 'Attorney General Of The United States'

John Mitchellā€¦Ed Meeseā€¦John Ashcroftā€¦Alberto Gonzales

Weā€™ve had worse.

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Agreed but, sadly, mental healthcare is not something we do well in this country.

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Just wonderingā€¦ did he claim this before or after Jan of 2009?

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More like cargo cultists than mentally ill people, really.

Theyā€™re ignorant thus deeply in the grip of Dunning Kruger syndrome. They see people who use words they donā€™t understand or half-understand or completely misconstrue to obtain benefits for their clients and they conclude, not that theyā€™re seeing practitioners of a learned profession using technical terms to make a reasoned argument but, rather, that theyā€™re seeing practitioners of magic who use magical incantations to obtain things they want. They conclude that all they need to do is string the words they see the wizards use together in the right order and they too can obtain benefits.

They are to the law as an astrologer is to astrophysics and an alchemist is to chemistry or people who think they can heal disease with magic healing crystals are to medicine.

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I donā€™t think he is insaneā€¦he is a sovereign nation guy ā€¦this is what they believeā€¦same as the couple who executed two police officers. They are dangerous.

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A nutcase by any other name.

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Interesting take on the bizarre behavior. I compare it to people who play fantasy football and other games so obsessively that they eat, breathe and live the fantasy, having difficulty separating it from reality. They begin to ascribe superpowers to themselves and indulge in magical thinking to solve their problems with everyday living.

At some point I suppose itā€™s a diagnosable mental illness, but identifying it and treating it would be extremely difficult.

Another genius from the far right.

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They may be already doing it, but itā€™s time to keep a closer eye on these Alex Jones lunatic followers. Being odd might be a constitutionally protected right, acting odd itā€™s not. When Alex Jones theories get to be way out there a psychiatric evaluation itā€™s a must.

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Indeed. The law is hard and thatā€™s why we have a school for it. Yes, laws need to be understood and written in an accessible way, but far too often we find people who donā€™t understand laws or appreciate their own limitations to understand those laws.

ā€œOnce you believe the government is illegitimate, it is only a short step to believing that you can make up any governmental or quasi-governmental thing yourself and have it be just as ā€˜legitimateā€™ as that of the de facto government,ā€ Pitcavage told TPM.

Pffft.
No such thing as ā€˜de facto legitimacyā€™.
But is such a thing as ā€˜f^cking insaneā€™.

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Can you imagine being the judge in a trial where this guy functions as his own lawyer? I donā€™t really think heā€™s legally insane or incompetent, so he may have a right to represent himself. What a circus!

I donā€™t really see much difference between this guy and someone who genuinely believes that he is Napoleon Bonaparte. If this isnā€™t mental illness, it is an excellent imitation of it.

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Cargo cultists.
Brent Cole wouldā€™ve fit neatly as a minor character in Larry Nivenā€™s Dream Park.

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So, to summarize:

Malace + Dunning-Kruger effect = Sovereign Citizens.

Just another attempt by a pathetic loser to attain SOME kind of elevated social stature in his own narcissistic mind.
He is lower than dirt on the social strata and canā€™t handle that fact so he uses ā€œmagical thinkingā€ to elevate himself above all others.
Unfortunately, he is heavily ARMED and the combination of a ā€œnothing to loseā€ narcissist and lots of weapons leads to some poor guy just doing his job getting SHOT.

So, I can explain the ā€œstatutory Attorney Generalā€ claim, even if it is 100% insane. I noticed that the crazy here cited Rotella v. Wood, which caught my eye (in the interest of full disclosure, I am an attorney who has some RICO experience). Rotella v. Wood, 528 U.S. 549 (2000), is a case about how the statute of limitations is measured in RICO cases. As such, I was confusedā€“but then I looked through the opinion, and in it, the court (in the person of Justice Souter) says that the purpose of the civil portion of the RICO statute is ā€œnot merely to compensate victims but to turn them into prosecutors, ā€˜private attorneys general,ā€™ dedicated to eliminating racketeering activity.ā€ (citations omitted). The claim then, to insane folks, is that the RICO statute makes everyone a private attorney general, because the Supreme Court said so.

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Sovereign=ruler or king. Citizen=member of a community. Only the monarch can be both. I guess this guy is what Freud once termed ā€˜His majesty, the ego.ā€™ Egomania is the hallmark of the libertarians, one and all.

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