Discussion: Why The BLM Shooting Suspect Believes He's A U.S. Attorney General

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Mental illness. I hope that in addition to his conviction and sentencing that he will receive psychiatric care for his rampant delusions.

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BLM Shooting Suspect's Bizarre Claim: He's 'Attorney General Of The United States'

John Mitchell…Ed Meese…John Ashcroft…Alberto Gonzales

We’ve had worse.

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Agreed but, sadly, mental healthcare is not something we do well in this country.

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Just wondering… did he claim this before or after Jan of 2009?

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More like cargo cultists than mentally ill people, really.

They’re ignorant thus deeply in the grip of Dunning Kruger syndrome. They see people who use words they don’t understand or half-understand or completely misconstrue to obtain benefits for their clients and they conclude, not that they’re seeing practitioners of a learned profession using technical terms to make a reasoned argument but, rather, that they’re seeing practitioners of magic who use magical incantations to obtain things they want. They conclude that all they need to do is string the words they see the wizards use together in the right order and they too can obtain benefits.

They are to the law as an astrologer is to astrophysics and an alchemist is to chemistry or people who think they can heal disease with magic healing crystals are to medicine.

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I don’t think he is insane…he is a sovereign nation guy …this is what they believe…same as the couple who executed two police officers. They are dangerous.

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A nutcase by any other name.

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Interesting take on the bizarre behavior. I compare it to people who play fantasy football and other games so obsessively that they eat, breathe and live the fantasy, having difficulty separating it from reality. They begin to ascribe superpowers to themselves and indulge in magical thinking to solve their problems with everyday living.

At some point I suppose it’s a diagnosable mental illness, but identifying it and treating it would be extremely difficult.

Another genius from the far right.

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They may be already doing it, but it’s time to keep a closer eye on these Alex Jones lunatic followers. Being odd might be a constitutionally protected right, acting odd it’s not. When Alex Jones theories get to be way out there a psychiatric evaluation it’s a must.

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Indeed. The law is hard and that’s why we have a school for it. Yes, laws need to be understood and written in an accessible way, but far too often we find people who don’t understand laws or appreciate their own limitations to understand those laws.

ā€œOnce you believe the government is illegitimate, it is only a short step to believing that you can make up any governmental or quasi-governmental thing yourself and have it be just as ā€˜legitimate’ as that of the de facto government,ā€ Pitcavage told TPM.

Pffft.
No such thing as ā€˜de facto legitimacy’.
But is such a thing as ā€˜f^cking insane’.

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Can you imagine being the judge in a trial where this guy functions as his own lawyer? I don’t really think he’s legally insane or incompetent, so he may have a right to represent himself. What a circus!

I don’t really see much difference between this guy and someone who genuinely believes that he is Napoleon Bonaparte. If this isn’t mental illness, it is an excellent imitation of it.

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Cargo cultists.
Brent Cole would’ve fit neatly as a minor character in Larry Niven’s Dream Park.

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So, to summarize:

Malace + Dunning-Kruger effect = Sovereign Citizens.

Just another attempt by a pathetic loser to attain SOME kind of elevated social stature in his own narcissistic mind.
He is lower than dirt on the social strata and can’t handle that fact so he uses ā€œmagical thinkingā€ to elevate himself above all others.
Unfortunately, he is heavily ARMED and the combination of a ā€œnothing to loseā€ narcissist and lots of weapons leads to some poor guy just doing his job getting SHOT.

So, I can explain the ā€œstatutory Attorney Generalā€ claim, even if it is 100% insane. I noticed that the crazy here cited Rotella v. Wood, which caught my eye (in the interest of full disclosure, I am an attorney who has some RICO experience). Rotella v. Wood, 528 U.S. 549 (2000), is a case about how the statute of limitations is measured in RICO cases. As such, I was confused–but then I looked through the opinion, and in it, the court (in the person of Justice Souter) says that the purpose of the civil portion of the RICO statute is ā€œnot merely to compensate victims but to turn them into prosecutors, ā€˜private attorneys general,’ dedicated to eliminating racketeering activity.ā€ (citations omitted). The claim then, to insane folks, is that the RICO statute makes everyone a private attorney general, because the Supreme Court said so.

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Sovereign=ruler or king. Citizen=member of a community. Only the monarch can be both. I guess this guy is what Freud once termed ā€˜His majesty, the ego.’ Egomania is the hallmark of the libertarians, one and all.

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